DaptoFunlandGuy

that's pretty well spot on what i put together too... so while it was built on the parkway - it clearly extends into the envelope. In the USA - the Parkway would have remained open and people would have been able to drive under it.

Just as WnW has both wristband and coin operated lockers - so too could there be 'app powered' and regular coin op lockers. Those who pre-purchase online via app wouldn't have to wait in line behind the hordes that can't figure out their date of birth. yes - kind of a catch 22 situation there - when they offered the gold pass, they didn't offer those extra perks - things like early entry and ERT weren't part of the pass... they came later to try and encourage people to buy and use the gold pass. Trouble was - few people knew about the extra offer because it wasn't included in the marketing for the gold pass (probably because they didn't want to be 'bound' to it... so either they'd already bought a regular VIP (and no upgrade was offered at that point) or they didn't want to pay extra for the pass because it wasn't an inclusion. And they went away from it around the same time they gave them away for free.

I've been trying to find overheads or aerial shots whilst the two rides were standing. It's been nigh on impossible. It's hard to believe (considering the rides stood side-by-side for almost 3 years) that there are no good photos of that particular area. I was certain cyclone protruded into Thunderbolt's envelope, because both tracks curved toward each other... and it does, but barely. . I wasn't suggesting it wasn't built over the roadway (it's obvious to see from the lift hill) - only that cyclone rested on part of thunderbolts ride envelope. The image posted above seems to show the three loops very closely aligned, but the Meisho loops are rounder, and now that i've looked back on the footprint layout, you can see the loops are presented at an angle. Here's a comparison using the Meisho floorplan - for those that don't remember, the Flowrider store is the old station-house for Thunderbolt - so i've lined them up as closely as possible for scale...

These days, theres an app for everything. Incorporating it into an e-commerce platform would be far quicker to organise than some sort of 'vending machine' to issue wristbands. The whole suggestion for the 'app' concept was to eliminate the issue seen by some surrounding the need to 'issue' wristbands in the park. It's a real bottleneck in WnW - so much so that I never bother with wristbands and just go for the coin-op lockers instead... provided I have change. If a person can use an app to pay for their locker - then they could book it ahead of time, before arriving at the park...thereby speeding up the process, electronically banking the revenue immediately, negating the need for staff to supply wristbands or refill vending machines (which will break down) I see an app being far easier to implement than any wristband type system.

Yeah - they need to like - open their website up so anybody can log in and update details at any time - then you could have just done it yourself!

With the height available, you could put in a relatively lengthy kiddie coaster (suitable for adults to ride) above ground level and have it duck and dive all over the building. Numerous flats distributed around with some kiddie only and some 'family friendly'. You only have to take a look at the park when it rains to know that everyone heads for main street or scooby doo (JL3d is a little too far out of the way). If they did this, there'd be an 'indoor' area to ride in the bad weather - and as has been suggested - with some food options thrown in you could keep the family captive and spending for some time... sadly i don't think it will happen, but it's a brilliant idea.

Given Thunderbolt's ride envelope extended to the carpark boundary fence, and the subsequent construction of the Cyclone was inside that boundary, as you can see below, Cyclone was within the same envelope. They may not have crossed tracks, but 'thunderbolt land' was taken up by Cyclone.

^i wouldn't. personally i think it's a much better use of space (and people eater) as an indoor 'land' with numerous little flats.

The space from Thunderbolt was long since taken over by Cyclone and WhiteWaterWorld. The last time we'd heard about Vortex, it was sitting in pieces in storage out the back behind Tiger Island White Water World maintenance bay.

Many of us have said this - or at least 'free for a period' like Universal do in many places... but the parks obviously don't want to give up the revenue, so at the very least - making it more convenient (with apps etc) would at least reduce the pain associated with them...

Quoted for those unable to stay within topic.

You read the part where I said 'leave your phone in the locker, unlock it with a pin code'... right? Edit: lol to the fluffy fluffy bunny... but to be fair - American parks (hell most parks overseas) handle lockers FAR better than we do.

i'll be sure and mention that in the thread related to Dreamworld Maintenance, once i've finished posting in a topic for a Lego Ride at a "COMPLETLEY" different park.

Storm has a debut at 194... thats not bad considering the number of people that would have gotten to ride it. Need to wait until TPR comes down under again...

How about an app? You login to the app (before arrival at the park), 'purchase' a locker package, enter a pin code (on your phone) and go to any of the locker stations - scan the barcode on your phone (it is possible - i use my phone screen with the themeparks.com.au app to enter the parks - i don't have a paper pass anymore), and it opens a locker. You then secure your phone and belongings in the locker. On return - you simply enter the pin code and locker number and the locker is unlocked. Because the barcode is generated on your phone, you can carry it around with you to any locker station

having had a closer look at my photos, the hole in the wall is new Certainly a lot of the lot sale items have been cleared out - it still looks as though some of the christmas floats are in there (see big white mountain thing that looks something like a snowy hilltop). I'm willing to concede they've changed gears here and have actually started moving on something. With the fencing being as it is though - i'm still unsure whether the plans at this stage are for the whole building as it still looks like hte other half is being utilised for storage (although more movements may be yet to come). When I last saw the inside of the building, the floor in the 'empty space area' still had a giant hole in the concrete about where one of the water troughs would have been on LTRR. I do not see that hole here now - so it seems they have sneakily begun to work on River Ride at last. Hopefully it is something other than Mini Cars.

Such Idea.... Much Original... Very Unique.... WOW Wait - of course your suggestion was different - you wanted them to work at all parks.... of course.

Until one of our friendly internals points us to something going on, i'm going to safely assume that NOTHING has changed.

I know it's semantics, and i'm not disputing that Wipeout is one of the best attractions in the park - hence why we're seeing them go through extensive refurbishment after 21 years in operation to keep the old girl going. I'd pretty much put them in the same order as Rappa has above. My point is 'flagship' to describe it is inappropriate as the term is singular- chief primary principal most important one ...and this from macquarie dictionary: In my opinion, ToT would be dreamworld's "flagship' attraction - it spans across almost the entire width of the park, you can see AND hear it from almost anywhere nearby, and has been used in many promotional items as their feature, main or signature attraction - for example - how the big brother credits rolled with the ToT car going up the tower. I'd call Wipeout a 'featured' attraction, a top 5 (or top 8 or big 8). It certainly is one of their best attractions, but not THE best. You cannot use the word 'Flagship' if you put 'one of their' in front - there cannot be more than one.

i get the intention behind the statement, but the term is singular - meant to imply the best, or most important... not 'the 8 best'

So a 21 year old top spin is a flagship attraction at the park.... So Wipeout is their primary ride? Sounds about right.

God I miss the sarcasm tags. Some people are just born without their sarcasm detector switched on.

the major difference that stands out to me (considering it's been 4 years since I rode USS version and 1 year since USH) is the animatronic 'mummy' halfway through (just before the on-ride photo) at USS that broke the ride up a bit, and made it a bit longer... there was just so much more detail across the board, and the ending actually made sense - it wasn't just that you were suddenly returned to the station without 'closure' of sorts.

I'm not aware of a change to USS's version - i'm thinking perhaps the track layout change in comparison to the other versions (I noticed a big difference in the ride experience between USH and USS - and I prefer the USS version by a country mile.

I just want to acknowledge that while this level of storage wasn't required in the past, the park hasn't ever really been operating at this level of additional theme before. The current christmas tree for the park isn't something that really should be all-weather all year (although it is built to handle it, it should be sheltered where possible), and takes up about a container's worth of space (or more). All of the floats from Christmas are in there too - and many of the details aren't something that would respond well to weather - you must remember the parade route is mostly indoors these days. The park has taken christmas and hallowe'en to this level because they have had the room like they've never had before. I'm sure an all-weather venue for tech-crews to work on the set design of the floats has been extremely convenient (especially right opposite the audio visual maintenance bay) I'm not advocating the prolonged use of the space in this fashion, but it is in a place convenient to their maintenance areas. It is pretty clear that maintenance only needs about half the space - and you could still do some pretty awesome 'darkride' experiences in such a small remaining space (take a look at Fantasyland for ideas on how to do that!) To be honest, that's probably not a bad idea - ride systems the likes of Mr Toad or Alice's adventures in Wonderland - you could easily fit 2, maybe three different attractions in there, and still have plenty of room left for storage of the floats etc.