DaptoFunlandGuy
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Sydney Wet n Wild | Can I sell my wrist band? |
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Hollywood Stunt Driver 2
Well it won't be nothing - if they're doing high falls, there isn't much to fall from except the main facade - and you need a landing zone... maybe a dumpster in front of one of the buildings filled with foam the way PASS did it?
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Sydney Wet n Wild | Can I sell my wrist band? |
There's always the possibility that Dreamworld will actually do something without expectation of profit too.... shahh... and monkeys might fly outta my butt. As DjRappa said, he asked a question on an unofficial website, and he got several unofficial answers. Sure - the park may in their discretion do something against their own T&Cs, but that becomes dangerous... the minute you do something against your own rules, you show people that the rules don't have to be followed in each and every case - that enlivens the expectation that if they want the rules changed for them, it will happen too. All they have to do is complain loudly enough - again - entitlement complexes. It's a refund on change of circumstance. Sure - he's moving, and i'm very sorry that he seems to have wasted his money on the pass, but he committed to purchasing a season pass on the basis he wasn't moving, and given he has his MyBand, he has most likely visited the park at least once. His circumstances changed - why should the park lose revenue that they've already 'booked' just because he won't be able to use the pass again? He has used it, and benefited from it - does that just become a 'free entry'? No - he's used it. Charge him a single day admission and give him the difference back? That's possible I suppose, but not really worth pursuing, is it? If the park changes their policy on such matters - sure - but so far, they haven't suggested anything different to normal operations with normal entry terms and conditions - and that is the answer we gave him.
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Sea World Storm Coaster construction 2013
Disney does fire well in dark rides without gas or flame - just lights, fans and fabric. It may be that the features were installed, but the certifiers wouldn't sign off because of a risk of (uncontrolled) fire because the effect was too close to something... and that's put them back to the drawing board? That may explain the response you got from guest services. Many dark-rideattractions use fire. It's safe where it's done properly. Bermuda did it for many years - Wild West Falls had sparkers before the fire. Backdraft at universal studios (and then the Mummy). It can be done... and with the heat elements etc present in the ride already, they've definitely tried to do so... but who knows what will come of it if there is a problem.
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Future dreamworld plans?
I disagree - Night WhiteWaterWorld is $25 for 3.5 hours as a separately ticketed event... and dare I say - it appears to be popular enough to continue for the summer season. Although there is no pricing for the 2014 Screamworld events, last year's tickets started from $29.99 (group of 4, booked online). Given the parks have single day tickets for up to $89.99 (VRTP), a cheap 'limited hours' after dark ticket would probably sell reasonably well. Increase the cost of the world pass to compensate for the added benefits of repeated night-time access (or make night time access for world pass holders $5 or something ridiculously cheap) and you're set... You're not really losing anything to the world pass holders (and guarantee you'll capture a lot of them with the 'dinner' market) but you're also gaining visitors that may want to 'check out' the park but don't have the time (or the bank balance) to visit during the day.... it's like 'Dreamworld Lite' - the sampler.
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Sydney Wet n Wild | Can I sell my wrist band? |
They may be, but the terms and conditions printed on the ticket and accompanying the pass say that once registered, the season pass is not transferrable or redeemable for cash. The T&Cs for our parks are pretty common knowledge, and standard terms of use with most organisations won't refund a product once used (unless defective). Your statement that only your reply provided "useful information" (because you're the only one who told him to call the park) is incorrect - firstly because although not 'official' everyone else's advice is on the 'right track' and is the generally accepted view of the park's T&C's... therefore it IS useful because it gives him an idea of the park's likely response. Secondly - my reply at least addressed the question seriously and logically, explaining why the answer was no, instead of being couched in sarcasm. Just because members here are (or are not) employees of the park, doesn't mean that the cannot express an opinion, view, or provide advice, and doesn't mean that anything they do offer isn't helpful. Personally I believe that the answers by Westical and Myself were far more courteous and helpful than yours. The fact that we didn't post contact details (including for New Zealand - WTF?) is irrelevant given you had already posted them. We were simply adding to the discussion and providing further, less sarcastic, more helpful advice.
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Sea World Storm Coaster construction 2013
As i've said several times in the past - my wife is a construction administrator for a very large building company in queensland. The construction they do undergoes several 'certification' or 'approval' steps, which include among others: approval for the development approval for the plumbing sewerage plans gasfitter's certification 'final' approval which is an inspection done by the council to confirm that all the conditions of the construction have been adhered to Theres a bunch of others, and i've probably gotten the names wrong, but you can get approval to build, and then get the 'building' signed off, but that doesn't mean the gas fittings were signed off. The relevant authorities would sign off that the construction was completed as per the DA, but the gas supply cannot be enabled until the authorised gas fitter has certified the work. Think caravans - you can build a caravan from scratch, and get it registered by the department of transport (it's nothing but a trailer at the end of the day) - but the gas fittings installed need to be certified by a gas fitter separate to the registration... and you can't use the gas stove until that's done... make sense?
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Future dreamworld plans?
If they wanted to make screamworld REALLY popular - they should do it how Wonderland did it - not have a separate 'gate'... don't close at 5pm and open at 5:30... just stay open. It wasn't that hard for Wonderland to run $5 after 5... (which naturally would be more expensive these days) but let your day visitors stay if they want to - chances are a lot of them will leave, but a cheaper 'after 5' ticket would make up for it. Rather than trying to make your money at the gate so much - be thankful for getting more through the door for a lower fee, and then upsell with flashy crap. Do some research and have a fireworks laser show. Sell those weird 'starburst' 3d glasses that make one light turn into 100. charge $5... make a mint. I remember Wonderland doing a Michael Jackson 'tribute' style show at lakeside to celebrate the release of the album 'History' (might have been dangerous but i think i was too young for that). They had dancers on stage, and the concessions were queued up 12 deep for popcorn, drinks and other novelties. They did a fireworks show each night over behind the demon and it was popular as all hell - you couldn't move. I don't know what 'trading hours' restrictions the park has - but right now - the best thing Dreamworld could do is offer a product that Movie World can't - extended night-time trading with all rides open, for a discounted admission after 5pm. I sometimes finish work in Brisbane at 2-3 in the afternoon. I often want to take a trip down to the park for the afternoon - the fact that they close at 5pm means thats pretty pointless... but if they were charging $20 after 5pm (until say - 10pm) i'm there. This would drive attendance, and would bring in more direct and indirect income which in turn would improve the bottom line and let them install something more than just 'filler'.
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Sydney Wet n Wild | Can I sell my wrist band? |
I'm guessing he was too fat to ride Aqualoop? The mybands have a photo on them - i guess it's how closely the gate attendants are paying attention. Of course, since the park has stopped selling season passes, and now only has day tickets available, maybe some people think that others will pay big bucks for a season pass? Confirmed - the first listing ($200 for one gold pass) I looked at mentions prominently that you cannot buy the passes from the park anymore. Interestingly, it also states: Bid carefully shoppers... you don't want to buy a second hand season pass with rust on it!!! Second listing - $300 for 2x silver passes Third - $240 for 1x silver pass... (this one comes with free delivery! BARGAIN!) Fourth one is best value - a gold pass for $200 Fifth - gold pass for $150... this guy appears to just want to get his money back, rather than profiteering on it - and even goes so far as to mention all the opening dates for th epark for the rest of the season... seems legit. Sixth - gold pass (with $40 credit on it) for $240... if it has credit on it, i'm inclined to think that it has already been registered, but the listing says it hasn't.. sold by the same guy selling number 4... interesting. So - in a nutshell - if you have registered the pass, have your 'myband' and had your photo taken, you can't transfer it. You can however sell the 'ticket' to someone else before you register it. Given Swagjord says he has a wristband, that tells me it's registered, and therefore in his case, the answer is no.
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Future dreamworld plans?
And that's why some people will always choose premium over budget - VRTP over Ardent. No matter where I go, I fly with Qantas over any domestic carrier, and internationally depends on where i'm heading, but so far Qantas has always worked out to be better. Sure they may not have sexy stewardess' on board, but everything is included. Alcohol - included. Meals - included. Snacks - included. Want more snacks? ask for them or on the A380 - help yourself. Discretely let the cabin manager know you're on your honeymoon and watch out for what happens... I'm quite happy to pay more for premium better service. It's why I think the USA tipping system works well - but it would never work here because prices on products would have to drop to compensate for the tipper - and to do that, wages would have to drop - and no employee would vote that one in. It's why I'll always buy a fright nights fastpass from now on. It's ok to cater to the masses with a budget product (VIP pass or World Pass) but you've got to offer a better experience for a little more money (what VRTP tried to do with the gold pass), because people will pay it... thats how you make money... but offering a premium turd over a regular turd isn't going to cut it (dreamworld) and that is why i've only owned one annual pass for dreamworld which was never renewed, and won't be until the park turns around.
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Future dreamworld plans?
Come on T-Bone... They just spent money on a BRAND NEW1 AUSTRALIAN MADE2 LOCOMOTIVE3! 1 Almost 2 not quite 3 if you can call it that.
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Adventure World New Coaster - Abyss
Actually, your usage would fall more in line with http://www.apra-amcos.com.au/MusicConsumers/OnlineMobile/Ondemandmusicandotherservices.aspx Last time i got involved in something like that it was $300 a year, but i was using commercial music a lot heavier than you likely would.
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Sea World Storm Coaster construction 2013
A simple transition - like you refer to between the warehouse and the ship would be all that is needed... but the story appears to show that we've entered the ships boiler room (hence the fire etc). Because there is no separation between the stations, you arrive back at the point you left so the question is - has the storm passed or are you returning back because the storm was too rough? Although mechanically difficult, I think they needed something like SE - an unload station that was visually separated from the load station - black curtain or whatever, so when you arrive you are 'evacuated' from the lifeboats, rather than just 'back where you started'. They've done a great job with the theming but it would be nice if it just made a little more sense... I mean - take a look at Jet Rescue - even though the theme is pretty loose, the unload station concludes the story with Trevor Long on screen explaining how you rescued the ?sea lion? from the blowhole. I realise the station is quite small, and by combining it means they can use the grouper as the unloader... i'm just saying it would have been nice.
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Future dreamworld plans?
Unlike ToT2, where the forces all flow in the same direction, and the ride is just one long acceleration, in one direction before decelerating and going vertical, I don't think you could take a conventional coaster, and turn it backwards - the track would have been designed with forward facing riders in mind. I don't think the transitions or forces would be appropriate for a backwards facing train. I could be wrong - it's only an opinion. I also don't see them doing standup - it increases the rider envelope, and I think they've built a few things (headchoppers etc) too close for a standup to be viable.
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Sea World Storm Coaster construction 2013
heating units elements are present. piping is present. Although I haven't seen an actual 'flame' it's all there - so once school holidays settle down and they can test it in a quieter period, we should see them come online. I imagine that Storm will probably go down for maintenance pretty much as soon as school holidays are over, and we'll see the finishing touches added to it then. On another note - not that it matters really - but I would like to see the park update their site to reflect current ride lineups.... eg: http://themeparks.com.au/~/media/Images/ThemeParks/Sea%20World/Attractions/viking.ashx
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Adventure World New Coaster - Abyss
To go REALLY off topic - have you discussed this sort of thing with APRA?
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Sea World Storm Coaster construction 2013
Then shouldn't the sign be upside down, like the rest of the ship?
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Wet'n'Wild Sydney Reaches Capacity
Every attraction brand new + brand new staff + cheap passes = many pissed off people. We don't notice the issue on the GC because if the new ride on the block malfunctions, the park is still plenty big enough for everyone... in sydney, they're all new rides, so they're all going to have issues from time to time. But I do think they rushed it open a little to avoid missing peak season... that was a mistake on their part that hopefully they can recover from (and they most likely will, but will need to do a lot of goodwill marketing to get across the line)
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Sea World - No Entry train crossing
I hate to be the pic whore, but seems like quite a few people have seen the latest additions - how come we have no pics yet?
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Maintenance Schedule
I love their wording 'will benefit from maintenance'... nicely spun, movieworld! You kind of expect SE to have a longer maintenance period, but it's interesting that Arkham, Green Lantern and Batwing all have a shorter maintenance period than a kiddie coaster. I'm also curious - Justice League isn't here at all - naturally maintenance wise it's a bit different to the rest of the park, but surely it would need an annual maintenance period too... is this just the first half of the year and we'll see Scooby, WWF, JL3D and other WB kids attractions in the second half? does that fit with previous schedules?
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Adventure World New Coaster - Abyss
awesome POV's slick... now if only you could get away from cheesy production music... and wear a lapel mic whilst talking through noisy mechanical sounds... I daresay they're much better put together than a lot of TPR vids i've seen... good job.
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Sea World Storm Coaster construction 2013
It's been annoying me for a while now, and Slick's video has just reminded me... The final splashdown is in a ship an UPTURNED ship (it's upside down) this was a freak storm and it all just happened suddenly but someone was smart enough to install a 'DANGER' sign, after the storm hit, right way up?
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Future dreamworld plans?
SOME asians don't care for thrill rides - Disney did their research and concluded that the Hong Kong demographic didn't want thrill rides, which is why HKDL was built featuring more stage shows, character appearances and sedate family rides than most other disney parks. They later realised that catering to the hong kong demographic was stupid because most visitors to the park weren't from Hong Kong... They then expanded the park to include more thrilling rides and experiences. No. I hate to break it to you - but that horrible looking wind turbine thing in the exit... USED TO BE THE ENTRANCE!!! :mind=blown. another different turbine.
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Top 9 Theme Parks in the World.
They haven't been acknowledged for that Zacsta, They have been elevated WELL ABOVE where they should be by any independent poll. For them to rank this high is enough to prove something dodgy is going on. Although I don't think they rank top 20, if they were top 20 it would raise less eyebrows... but FOURTH??? it just doesn't cut it.
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Wet'n'Wild Sydney Reaches Capacity
^Agreed