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This comes up periodically and there's never been a cut and dry answer, and there ever will be. I think the answer is both personal and contextual. Aside from that it ultimately doesn't really matter. For our purposes, there are 3 theme parks in Australia, all on the GC. After that it's either amusement parks or water parks (or combinations) and beyond that its tourist attractions. If you want to split hairs and be all 'DW was a theme park now it's an amusement park' or 'SW is a marine park with rides' or 'Luna Park Sydney is a theme park because it has seperate lands' knock yourself out, but know you're wasting your breath with me. What's the threshold to move from one categpry to another? There isn't one, stop over thinking it. I'll give you one rule though, if lots of guests bring Gazebos or similar, it's not a theme park.

I would argue our parks have no international appeal, and that anyone who travels for them is a rounding error. I'm not sure that many people travel from all over Australia to visit SW/MW/DW, I think the 'theme parks' as a collective is pretty compelling as a domestic destination. You can split hairs till the cows come home on wether this makes the individual parks regional or not. I'd say you could call them either regional parks, or destination parks, and in both cases you're right.

I'd say thematically it has to be a hero. You've got a villans land on the other side of the park. Some sort of Lex Luther contraption that makes Earthquakes would be a sickeningly easy and lazy tie in otherwise.

Look a classic quarter is a thing of beauty. I'd use caution when exploring the menu beyond that. Having said that, the worst thing on the menu (Rooster Roll) is also one of the most delicious things you can get anywhere. You just don't buy it when you're awash with self respect is all.

Really dissapointed in Greg. The only reason anyone should eat Hungry Jack's is because you want fast food and you're with a vegan, but on that kind of money you should be able to get a wife who isn't a vegan pretty easily so there's no excuse for him to be eating that. Easily the worst of the fast food chains, even Red Rooster beats it, and most things at Red Rooster are awful. Also in my mind HJ's is the cheapest of the big chains (stunner meal anyone?), so I'm bagging it out based on it being cheap. The fact it's now apparently makes it even more of an outrage.

MW has consistently been running 2 trains on Superman and Rivals all through the school holidays. If they have the trains available for peak season, they use them. Much as you have been for a few weeks now, you're actually talking nonsense.

Surfrider isn't a flat ride. Fwiw, I'm actually not opposed to SW adding a flat ride, but it should do a different job to Vortex. I'm not sure Trident is working out as hoped, but clearly lots of people do want to ride it. Another family friendly moderate thrill with a low height requirement sounds like a bit of a winner. Also a Vekoma madhouse themed to Poesidon. I don't care which park gets one, but one of them does! Look I'll stay happily in the minority of people who think it makes the most sense at WnW, and while they're at it put Vortex out there too with some water fountains. At WnW those rides do a job similar to Project Zero at Gumbuya; they are the mega headliners. At SW they would be, what, the 4th and 5th biggest rides in a park that very low demand for thrill rides with a family focus? Two filler rides with a 140cm height restriction makes no sense at a park like SW. MW is my second choice, it does get more people who go to the parks for rides. Surfrider probably won't do anything to attendance, but it's an extra couple hundred rides an hour. Height restrictions aside, it's like building a second Batwing. It's not a massive people eater, but I think it'll just take some pressure off the other big rides. It's also fairly skippable. It's not going to be a big deal for most people if they don't get to go on it in the same way that not getting to go on Rivals and/or Superman is a bother. In short for me it's WnW 😃 MW 😀 SW 😖 Also if anyone is wondering if I'm right or not, I 100% am 😊

This is incorrect. NSW is back to school this week, and for all intents and purposes, School holidays are over. As promised in a different thread, the drop off when school goes back is huge! Jan after school holidays finish and Feb as a whole is by far the quietest time of the year. Glad you enjoyed your day!

What you mean like Vortex which never has a queue and already does exactly the same job in the park?

If it's at the front in either 1 or 2, you'd be mad to go anything other than DC. Same with 3 TBH. I'm not a proponent of expanding DC's footprint, but if it's literally in/off a DC land it should be DC.

I mean if you walked into the park by mistake that would be a thing. Surely though most people who go to Luna Park go there intentionally to go on rides and would on arrival go straight to buy tickets?

From memory the point of Claw's themeing was that it doesn't fit in to the area, it's an invader that doesn't belong. It's odd but it's MEANT to clash. Not the theme I would have gone for, but I'd argue they were successful.

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Fwiw, as an outsider on this topic I don't really see a contradiction between what the two of you are saying @Slick @New display name

It's kinda strange to me the temporary name thing. Like we aren't ready to go on this particular generic name, so we'll use this generic name instead.

I too am outraged by this thing I've just assumed.

Fingers crossed the kids aren't allowed their phones in class 🙂

One of my favourite things is when someone makes something up and then you get outrage at made up thing. There are lots of reasons why. There could be disabled guests and they want empty cars in the system to make it easier to identify which car has those guests. It might be to prevent a cascade stop. It might be that those cars had their harness reset, and while the ride is fine to continue operating, those cars need to be cycled a few times. It could be a guest half heartedly reported something, and it was being checked out to be sure to be sure. There are a million reasons why, its likley none of the ones I mentioned are why, but I'd suggest putting the outrage back in your pocket.

I don't know what your point is anymore and it's becoming exhausting.

Thrill ride waits have been long, but you know what, welcome to peak season at every park everywhere *that is popular and highly attended

It actually raises an interesting point. Scooby and West both to some degree appear to be struggling for throughput. If you made the overall problem worse by closing one, would you actually get fewer complaints? As for this thread; you need to remember it is born out of people with quite a negative bias using bad faith arguments to further their bias. In renaming it, I made it seem like it was started by someone who was being far more sensible than they actually were. A couple of other people also jumped in with quite bad faith arguments. Once you get past the nonsense bad faith stuff you can get to what I think the actual issue is. Namely that the family attractions, West and Scooby have struggled capacity wise with the peak attendance. Thrill ride waits have been long, but you know what, welcome to peak season at every park everywhere. West needs another pass over to see how you get more than 300 people through it an hour (invented number but feels about accurate), Scooby needs an overhaul, and they need more family rides, maybe some extra thrill capacity too.

I mean I don't know how much clearer I can be with this. If you got to the park at opening time, and rides were the main priority for you, it's 5 minimum, not maximum. That's doing the wrong thing 100% of the time. Making better decisions will get you on more rides and free up time for other things.

Cool story bro. I went to Alton Towers and rode everything without planning. I love it when we share meaningless stories!

To be clear, I on occasion go with family, and probably do 1-3 rides. We also see whatever is in the roxy, watch whatever incarnation of a stunt show is playing, watch the parade, have lunch. It's a full day out and at no point has it occurred to me to get mad at the fact we're getting 3 rides in. If you're the sort of person to whom rides are the priority, but you can't prioritise them, I'm sorry but I don't know what you want the park to do about that. 'Are you saying there are no issues and everything is totally fine?' No, that's not what I'm saying and you know full well it's not. Is it possible to go to MW and do 3 rides? Yeah sure. Is it the parks fault if that happens? No, if you want to do rides, you've got to be a little more involved in making sure you actually go on them.

Jungle Rash? I don't hate the name. I liked it more when I thought it was a low effort retheme of Madagascar instead of a ride through bushland. Also to be clear, I'm not going to judge the quality of the ride based on the types of trees around it, but I will 100% be judging the name based on how committed they are to planting a jungle.