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It’s not about that though.. its about the fact that “VTP Memberships” were marketed as the premium type of annual pass. They were above the standard offering. Now it seems people on this premium pass option are neglected as they are basically perennial members and don’t need to be “encouraged/bribed” to renew their pass. All of the perks outside of park access have been removed with no reduction in price, and now people on one passes receive extra perks. It’s inconsistent messages which annoy people

I think the answer is no, but do theme parks have “licences” as such that allow them to operate - just as say zoos and casinos do? Would/could the outcome of this inquest potentially hand down or have the power to suspend said “licence” if one exists? I don’t see anyway Ardent comes out of this financially or reputationally well... just curious as to if a stipulation as such could be made that Ardent could no longer operate theme parks for x amount of years as a condition/outcome Sensors are a type of sensor. Correct.

I read somewhere today that the e-stop button was pressed within 5 seconds of the raft tilting. Sounds pretty efficient given the horror and wtf instinct that would immediately cloud every part of your brain. Raft lifting to full stoppage was under 20 seconds due to the 12 second slow down in the conveyer. As Alex said, it was 57 seconds from pump failure to the accident. The raft was absolutely not stopped for 57 seconds. whilst the operators would still bare the mental scars, they can’t be attributed blame for the failure of their employer to provide a functional safety system that adhered to safety recommendations

Quality work again by GCB, they have a timeline of all the events, here is a couple of the “events”... hmm, anyone spot the problem?

My guess would be none, now.

Glad to hear it!

Last 2 times I’ve gone in with my premium membership card I’ve been told “you need to go to the ticket booth and update your pass”. Both times it’s been packed so haven’t done it - but my feeling is they will try to force a transition from memberships to one pass. Both landing pages for Membership benefits have become dead links of late - so the perks have disappeared

Think they’d have made some noise a little earlier, less than 2 weeks until the holidays start, should have been promoting it for weeks to encourage short day trips to be planned

Got it in one @webslave sure you weren’t part of the creative team? Haha

Detective Sergeant Nicola Brown told the inquest the ride operator who was near the only emergency stop button did not know what it was for. The ride operator was not aware the button could stop the conveyor belt in two seconds. The control panel only had a “slow stop” of the conveyor belt. She said the ability of police to gather information from Dreamworld “could’ve perhaps been better”. Sgt Brown said Dreamworld provided all the information requested but the format it was in made it difficult to decipher and determine which documents were relevant. The court also heard the ride did not have an emergency stop button which disabled all of the components of the ride. Sgt Brown said a second stop button brought the conveyor belt to a stop, but took seven seconds to completely stop. She said safety audits had previously recommended a single emergency stop button be installed. Det Sgt Brown also told the court there had been a recommendation in 1999 that an emergency stop button that shut off rides immediately — rather than taking seven seconds to shut down — be installed. “The 1999 recommendation of positive energy stop didn’t happen then or even later,” Mr Fleming asked. “No,” Det Sgt Brown said. So reading that - there is NO positive energy stop on the ride?? WTF? A full shutdown required both buttons to be pushed?

Don’t have text to copy and paste but on the local radio news up here it was just reported: 2 staff Working - 1 junior and one senior. the junior staff member was incharge of the panel at the time of accident she admitted to police investigators that she wasn’t aware how to use the emergency stop system, and this process did form any of her training. She also admitted that the panel itself was confusing, and investigators noted this as well when trying to operate the ride.

Given half the dates were prior to TG opening I don’t think that was the plan, though they may pick up some residual business on the final 2 nights. Assuming the park has private events on this fri/sat which is why it’s not on

So did they open a month early or was the thread title wrong?

Dreamworld staff’s safety fears after tragedy reveals parks rollercoaster of emotion JUNE 16, 2018 STAFF have accused Dreamworld of refusing to implement key training procedures following the Thunder River Rapids ride tragedy that killed four people. The Bulletin has obtained internal documents and spoken to whistleblowers as part of an investigation which puts the spotlight on the theme park’s management on the eve of a coroner’s inquest. Staff claim a manager refused requests for critical response training because “the incident was too raw to get involved”. Experienced health and safety workers also allege: * No formalised critical response training had occurred since the tragic events of 2016. * When it was brought up managers responded by saying that “it is too raw” or talked about cost factors and not having the budget to cover the expense of training. * Nothing was documented for first respondents on what to do if an incident occurred on a ride which requires guest extraction. * If a guest sustained an injury on a ride there was no formal response, individual clinicians having to make up their own mind what to do. * If a ride like the Buzz Saw was stopped, staff lacked formal guidelines on how to get people out. * Inexperienced staff had been appointed to senior safety roles and some multi-hired staff have basic first aid but need more training. * First aid staff had been excluded from some training, and safety concerns were raised in an inhouse survey. * Some staff were refusing to operate certain rides because they had concerns about safety. * Staff were operating rides after only four to five months working in the theme park despite previous practice requiring 18 months. A pre-inquest hearing in April found a faulty water pump and raft were the likely trigger for the ride malfunction which killed four tourists in October 2016. Kate Goodchild, 32, her brother Luke Dorsett, 35, and his partner Roozbeh Araghi, 38, and Gosford woman Cindy Low, 42, died in the tragedy. The Bulletin revealed the pump malfunction as the cause, and in a special report detailed how safety concerns had surfaced four years earlier. Fresh documents detailing notes from interviews and emails with staff show an offsite meeting chaired by Arden Leisure’s chief audit officer was held at Hope Island in late April. Workplace Health and Safety Queensland said it had received a complaint last month about a range of alleged issues at Dreamworld, and an inspector and engineer attended the theme park to investigate. “No contraventions of WHS legislation were identified and the investigation into the alleged issues has concluded,” the spokesperson said. But the Bulletin has been told the investigation did not consider cultural and management issues. Dreamworld yesterday issued a statement indicating the theme park would “continue to co-operate with the Coroner and those assisting him”. A Dreamworld spokesman said the theme park was not in a position to provide information which may be dealt with by the inquiry. “Every complaint relating in any way to a safety matter is fully investigated. Where appropriate external advice is sought to ensure every safety complaint is dealt with thoroughly,” the spokesperson said. AWU acting branch secretary Steve Baker said union members were concerned about Dreamworld’s approach to safety matters. Documents were provided to police for the Coroner. “A major concern has been a culture of secrecy in the behaviour of Dreamworld management,” Mr Baker said. “Whenever the union sought documentation from Dreamworld regarding safety issues, these requests were refused by management. This meant the union had to pursue matters through other means including Right to Information.” At April’s safety audit meeting, some staff said some managers were suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder “I get asked by every second guest was I there on the day. It is referred to as ‘the incident’. The effects of this incident are still being felt among the staff,” a staffer said. Aquatics at the park had staged incident response training in a room so as “to not be visible because of sensitivities”. A plan for a major health and safety training day at the water park was abandoned after the Rapids Ride tragedy. “They said it was too fresh, we shouldn’t be doing CPR, it will harm others in the park,” a Dreamworld source said. “The lifeguards needed that training. We now know these events are real and can happen.” Despite rides being deemed safe and passing engineer testing, some staff were reluctant to be operators. “I know people who refuse to operate,” another Dreamworld source said. “I know some who say it took me three years to get Rapids, now they (newer employees) are getting high-level rides in 18 months.” Another theme park insider told the Bulletin: “The staff are committed, dedicated and professional. They were pushed down and out. “A number of people who were first responders — they’re gone. They saw the clinicians being decimated and decrease with expertise.”

There has been vip’s thru most days/nights last week.

Yeah I posted that in the dreamworld pricing thread this morning

Have to say this is a terrific idea by DW and makes the upfront costs for families a lot more manageable

Gold Coast man rides hypercoaster 900 times JUNE 08, 2018 MOST people ride the largest rollercoaster in the southern hemisphere just once. Not Leonard Hebert, who has made it his mission to ride Movie World’s DC Hypercoaster at least 1000 times – within two months. Mr Hebert has now ridden the rollercoaster 909times and he has just one week left to hit his target. The hypercoaster raches speeds up to 115km/h and is 1.4km long and 61.6m high. The Sorrento local first decided to take out a season pass to the theme park on April 15 when he couldn’t think of anything better to do with his free time. “I had nothing else to do, so thought, just do it,” he said. So nearly every single day, the coaster-fanatic devotes up to six hours a day to his unusual hobby, happily driving the 20 minutes from his home to the theme park before heading to work later in the day. He said had visited so often that he was on friendly terms with the staff and that tourists visiting the park on seven-day passes recognised him. “Kids sometimes try and get a seat next to me,” he said. On quiet days, Mr Hebert said he could ride the hypercoaster up to 40 times, while busier days meant he could only squeeze in about 13 rides. He has also ridden the hypercoaster backwards more than 100 times at $10 a pop. Mr Hebert said his interest in the rollercoaster stemmed from his experience building and operating rides at exhibitions and shows for two or three years across Australia, including the Ekka and on Philip Island. Village Roadshow Theme Parks Chief Operating Officer, Bikash Randhawa said there had been a great repsonse to the hypercoaster since it opened late last year. “It is an incredible accomplishment for this guest to have ridden the coaster the amount of times he had, but given how much fun the ride is we can’t blame him,” he said. “We anticipate there will be a wave of guests now wanting to break this record and we look forward to welcoming them to the park.” https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/entertainment/gold-coast-local-rides-dc-hypercoaster-at-movie-world-909-times-wants-to-get-to-1000/news-story/2d497685f73e80e47a103158297d8632 909 rides on DCR in 7 weeks... thats a damn good effort, though I’m thinking Arkham Asylum may be more apt for Leonard...

For anyone interested in why the refill stations are MW are all closed & shuttered up I have the official word.. its because it’s winter and that means the park is quieter and less drinks are sold so it saves money to have them closed. go figure.

May have decided to utilise the scooby queue area for Fright Nights again

I don’t know what’s more amusing, the fact they made a definite improvement to the ride theming after a half year closure or the image of 3 blokes sitting around a table in an air conditioned office for 3 months while the public sweltered through summer with no water rides, only for it to get cooler and one of them had an idea “instead of turning off the water, let’s make it stronger!” they all nodded and high-5’d each other, spend 20mins adjusting the settings and re-opened the ride proud as punch. But kudos guys on a good improvement!

Someone clearly got that idea all mixed up and they closed it all summer....

I’m more of a Denny’s breakfast guy myself haha...

If you can’t limit your drinking to when off the bus at meals and after the end of the days transit I think you may have bigger issues than an itinerary...