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Oh yeah cool so that’s how we’ll live is it? If something doesn’t offend you then to hell with what anyone else thinks or feels. By your logic I’m not upset that they took away a couple of parking spaces so you shouldn’t be either.

To be fair if the parks capacity is reduced so is the prescribed number of Ambulant parking spaces required. Calling them handicapped spaces is considered quite offensive.

My issue with Guardians is its theme is so much worse than what it was. It looks cheap and tacky and the ride experiences lacks any of the suspense and thrill of the original. You ask “if building from scratch would you use an elevator ride system for this theme?” Course not. It’s a shoehorn. Other upgrades like Pirates have been amazingly done, Tony Baxter is involved so that bodes well. A princess and the frog theme for splash could be done in such a similar vein to the existing ride, a ride that portrays the essence of the film rather than an exact story telling. New Orleans styled music playing throughout as a cohesive theme like we have now could be done really well.

The retheme of Tower managed to simultaneously destroy what was a great ride/theme and also deliver a new attraction where the ride system made no sense to the theme/story of the ride. It’s awful, it’s cheap and it’s ugly, so let’s hope this alteration has zero similarities with what happened to Tower.

I think as Joz said there are a lot of opinions being formed out of assumptions. Its and assumption to think Dreamworld has a plan. Likewise it’s an assumption to decide they have no plan. Its also an assumption that Village will ‘charge’ from day one even though not everything is open. Being as all of these are just that, assumptions, I don’t think it’s sensible to form opinions, pro or con against the parks. Just want to make it clear that this is my issue in this thread. Not that I’m loving Village or Hating Dreamworld.

I’m only against criticisms that are unjustified and emotionally driven. If people don’t want a half closed park then don’t visit until it’s fully open. For you that’s no different than if it remained closed until ready for everything to open. But for people who would like to visit with at least some things available they can now do so. Why is it bad for Village to half open, but it’s fine for Dreamworld to not open at all? I don’t get it. I’ll never get the idea of going somewhere you don’t like and then complaining about how much you don’t like it. As for maintenance. Ride maintenance requires people to work closely together in groups. For much of the closure this wouldn’t have been possible so people can forget the idea that all the maintenance has been done over this time and everything is ready to rock now. There would be a large backlog.

There’s a simple approach to take it you’re not happy with the offering. Don’t go. Or perhaps visit the place you don’t like and then afterwards complain about how much you didn’t like it. That the 2020 way isn’t it?

It’s almost like the theme park’s are owned by publicly traded companies that have responsibilities to shareholders...

The article states they are suing them for misleading shareholders that the park had good safety practices prior to the accident and because they were lying and didn’t the share price plummeted after the accident. I’d say the park will have a hard time arguing against such a case. Im sure it’s all park of a highly developed plan which includes delaying reopening and welcoming negative press as a strategy though.

You’re more than entitled to have your own opinions of the company and the way it’s properties are run. And you’ve listed a lot of reasonable points, which I have no desire to argue. My point was specifically about COVID-19 (this is the thread for that after all) and I stand by my position that the negativity originated from once place. I am only arguing in this thread the notion the criticism of their handling of corona, and then the statement in regards to safety. And I’m yet to see anything credible posted to counter my argument. But yes, all of your above general thoughts on their parks I won’t dispute. I won’t agree with them all either, but they are valid opinions none the less.

But let’s be honest this was going on before COVID. It’s this whole ‘Tactics’ business people keep saying. All VRTP did was the same as most every business in Australia, attempting to do business as long as they could and get open as soon as they can. The only difference between the two companies is one was better at it and more resourced. The underdog IMO is someone like Aussie World. Ardent are a giant company that was grossly mismanaged, allowed a tragic accident to happen and then incompetently handled the entire aftermath and continues to flounder. That doesn’t make them an underdog to me, that makes them unfit for duty. Ardent needs a huge money injection and leadership that actually knows what it’s doing. From the outside it appears like they have one seasoned industry professional that knows theme parks in management, and a bunch of incompetent fools above and around them. Not once in the whole pandemic has VRTP gone against government directives. Sure they have actively campaigned for assistance from the government and a way to open as quickly as possible. But show me one industry that hasn’t done that? Shrewd maybe, but evil, no IMO

We have a no doxing rule here and I feel a bit weird about name dropping people who don’t choose to come on here. But anyone who knows the theme park circles will know the previous Maintenance Manager for VRTP who only finished up last year. You’d be hard pushed to find anyone who would say a bad word about them.

The problem is people aren’t even hating on Village. They are hating on one person (god knows why) who’s in leadership there, and then projecting that onto an entire company. What I find more baffling on this is the current COO of VRTP has more passion for the company and the industry than anyone who’s been in that roll for at least 12 years or more. Someone who’s the exact type of person who people say should be in that roll, someone who’s risen through the ranks of the company from entry level, rather than some outside non industry person out of touch with either the country or the industry or both. Ive just no idea why a group of people have taken so much reach to turn a Facebook comment they disagreed with into an entire hatred of an entire company. Yet the rose coloured glasses seem to be out in full force in regards to Ardent who just constantly fail and disappoint. Everyone is entitled to their own misguided opinion. But I take great issue when someone throws an allegation of unsafe practices around which is totally unfounded. As for talk of engineering personnel. Village were smart enough to have one of the most professional and respected people at the top of their maintenance department. He had enough oversight not to let the kind of unchecked ego driven people making decisions that affect guest safety. And that’s the difference between the management of the two companies.

I mean I wear glasses so anything is possible and indeed likely

Are you daft? What does that idiotic comment have to with anything. The comment made above said the park toed the line on safety. So in respect to that, Green Lantern is irrelevant. But I’m not going to have a stupid argument about it because there is no need.

Because a manufacturer design floor that was undetectable by a park following all prescribed procedures to the letter cannot be considered a safety failing by the park. That’s why.

Please do. I guarantee no one will remove such a post. But it simply won’t be true I can assure you of that. Please don’t let one of your comments be regarding Green Lantern.

That might be it too. However to me the writing looks backwards 🤷‍♂️

Well in regards to safety, no they haven’t. They’ve always been a leader in safety of both guests and staff alike. So the suggestion otherwise is quite out of order I feel.

Actually looks like themed/printed fencing scrims to be honest.

Sounds more to be Dreamworld hadn't got their shit together/don't have the cash to reopen at present, and were blindsided by a VRTP announcement. Then they've rushed out a PR release implying this is all part of their plan, and then made a (VERY) thinly veiled jab at VRTP implying they are staying closed because they don't want to rush safety. Basically implying that VRTP care less about safety. Let's just not even go there in regards to the irony in Dreamworld suggesting someone else is cavalier when it comes to safety.

Pfft Big Thunder Mountain killed someone because the park consciously cut maintenance costs and they stopped bothering to inspect things. Probably one of the most ridden coasters in the world. Don’t be saying the reason other rides have re opened is because they didn’t kill someone. PS Big Thunder was also home built in house FWIW

Reportedly Bush Gardens is a total shit show in regards to social distancing, masks and hygiene so a token sanitising every hour seems a bit like pissing in the wind really.

I'd say it's Sea World that would be an ideal park for a Rapids anyway