DaptoFunlandGuy

I don't think anyone wants to be given images of crashes before boarding a coaster. #TheSmiler

Many shelters in Australia have a no-euthanasia policy. RSPCA do not. So I wouldn't say 'common practice' but yes it is common practice with RSPCA. I don't condemn them for it though, as they do great work in education, and trying to PREVENT animals from ending up in shelters in the first place.

Actually - bathurst has large drops... and there have been the occasional loops... http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/external?url=http%3A%2F%2Fvideomam.news.com.au.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fgenerated%2Fprod%2F10%2F10%2F2015%2F162671%2Fimage1024x768.jpg%3Fcount%3D1&width=650&api_key=kq7wnrk4eun47vz9c5xuj3mc

I'm going to regret providing more ammunition for this maggot, but in the interests of setting the record straight - this may be the case now, but Sea World GC was once involved in the capture of wild animals for it's exhibits - and Trevor Long himself was involved in that. It is a past the park regrets, but it was back in a time when nobody knew any better, and I don't think that should be held against them now. And your ignorance astounds me. There are two sides to every story, and yet you're only prepared to listen to one, despite the very clear obvious slant from the 'other side'. You have to take both with a grain or salt. And is that your expert marine-veterinary medical opinion? or are you just rabbiting what the angelic movie directors told you? You keep going on about concrete pools and enclosed baths. First of all - sit in a bath. Now stretch out without crossing the edge of the tub. You can't move, can you? On the other hand, i've seen numerous animals in SW swimming, lazily or at high speed... So i'd say we're dealing with more than a bath tub. Yes they have small quarantine pools, but usually the Quarantine area is for an injured animal that we probably don't want swimming lots anyway - at least until it is healthy. A family friend of mine was heavily involved in animal behaviours at Sea World Gold Coast for many years. I can vouch for the fact that the animals are not forced to do anything they do not wish to do. this is why no two dolphin shows are the same, and you never see the same number of dolphins doing the same trick every single show. the show is tailored and altered depending on which dolphins are in the mood to play... and the word is PLAY not perform. None of them are starved - each receives food appropriate to their weight, health and diet. What they receive during shows are rewards, and this is over and above their regular daily feeds. So very tired of uneducated cocksuckers thinking they know better than parks that make a business out of conservation and rescue, especially after seeing a movie (or filming one!!!)

Loving the 'historical' photos on the wall. SeaScrewCorkViper lives on!

Disney is quoted as saying "You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway." But that's just it - they don't aim 'just' for adults - they target something that appeals to all. I can't find the specific story, but a story I read a while back goes like this: Walt went to some amusement type facility, and watched as the children went on rides, and the adults sat around and waited for them. He didn't want that - and so he designed attractions suitable for children, but enjoyable for adults... So I don't think this particular focus holds them back, rather - it brings families together in such a way that no other park can. I mean honestly - if you're going to use Six Flags as the standard of 'thrills' (which is fine) then what you're saying is Dreamworld does thrills better than Disney? Please. Ever go to a "theme park" with young children? ie: stroller children and younger? If you do that with older kids who aren't old enough to be left unsupervised - you end up making one or the other unhappy. you have to go to kiddie land so the little one can have a few carousel rides, and whilst that is happening, the 10 year old who wants to jump on everything he is tall enough for but can't go alone is bored and grumpy. Same situation in reverse whilst the big kid is riding rollercoasters. Disney just seems to have a knack for (mostly) building attractions that everyone can enjoy. Besides - i'm sure a lot of people would agree with me that Disney DOES turn up the intensity 'every now and then'... tower of terror is a good example.

You not make funny joke as you say steps 6 and 7. Reanimated plan only require 5. You say joke only use 3. In soviet russia, stupid joke tells you.

I think what JJUTP (and Myself) are getting at is that Disney doesn't set out with the manifesto of 'let's build a big scream machine that people look at and go "wow" ' - instead they build attractions where the WOW comes at the end of the ride. I did say above 'with the possible exception of California Screamin' - but that in itself is still the adventure - it's a steel looping roller coaster made to look like a wooden seaside fair coaster. On board audio that is perfectly suited to the ride from go to whoa, and really, although it is launched, and inverts, it's still not what i would call a ride that's sole mission was to be a 'thriller'. RnRC and SMM2 are thrilling attractions - nobody is denying that Disney rides CAN be thrilling - what we are saying is that they don't build THRILL rides. They build adventures, stories, alternate realities, that in addition to everything else they do (and many times because of it) can be thrilling. The difference between a ride that is thrilling and a thrill ride is subtle - but i guess the simplest way to get the point across to someone like you is to point to your local agricultural show, at big ticket rides like the extreme speed machine - and then compare it to space mountain. Are they both thrilling? Yes. But what does each one set out to do? One sets out to spin you around and around as fast as it can with very little between you and flying off into the atmosphere. The other sets out to tell a story of a spaceport, where you board a rocket, get clearance from the tower and launch into space, before going on a high speed journey with whips and turns and hills as you fly through the stars. See the difference?

Alcoholics and Joz's rejoice! Given they're theming to "motorsport" - Hot Lap is what gives them the tie-in, as you can buy a redballoon type experience which offers a hot lap in a v8 supercar. (v8-experiences.redballoon.com.au/‎) - and V8SC also offer those experiences to a few on actual race days as filler between major events on track. Many other companies offer hot lap experiences also - (www.hot-laps.com.au/‎) So now they have a major branding partner, as well as a tie-in to the overall motorsport theme. (Nobody mention the unnamed yellow coaster out by the river) The Hot Wheels theme allows them to be a bit more 'whimsical' with their theming, and race fans won't be able to pick it to pieces and criticise the fact that their 'motorsport' ride has inversions - because hot wheels DO inversions. Makes perfect sense to me.

A park smaller than where HKDL started? or where it is now? I shudder to think of a Disney park smaller than what HKDL was when it first opened. It had all the appearances of a great disney park, and none of the substance. I'd rather Disney invested in markets that are sustainable to their business model, than have them build here 'just because' and give us something half finished, half full, and half assed.

#completefanfiction

WTF is wrong with the media these days. have we become so conditioned to senseless violence, injury and tragedy that we have to sensationalise this sort of thing? To date, I don't believe that any major airline model aircraft is completely incident free - even the A380 has had some major mishaps (ok im not sure about dreamliner but give it time) - but people still flock to airports every day... bloody sickos.

^agreed

The operating entity in most of the international parks is still a joint venture between Disney Parks and an entity that has no other business in the industry. VRTP is another business in the industry, so it's not going to happen. That'd be like asking my accountant's 4 year old son to do my tax return, and me saying 'it's ok - he can do it - you just make sure you keep an eye on him while he does.' So my accountant can't do the work he does, because he has to concentrate on supervising his son, and in the meantime his son is incapable of doing the job his father does, so he ends up just doodling all over it in Crayon. VRTP would doodle all over Disney Operations in crayon because they wouldn't have the faintest idea how to manage a real crowd. It'd be belly up before the gates opened.

I don't know about War and Peace - thats my average post length. You make some good points Lev - and was kind of what i was trying to say in terms of building a test track.

Even if your source is correct, your quote is still wrong, as Walt was far more educated than to say "Disneyland well never complete" as opposed to "will never be complete" The spirit of your message is there, but the quote isn't correct - is all i'm saying.

I disagree. None of those (with perhaps the exception of California Screamin') are pure thrill rides. They are adventures, they are experiences. What Jjuttp has said rings true for me. i wouldn't be able to quote word for word, but Disney is on record saying something to that effect. they don't want the 'thrill' market, and are quite happy for Six Flags type parks to dominate the 'biggest' 'tallest' 'fastest' thrill ride dick measuring contest. Disney is about suspending belief and going on an adventure. not 'thrills'. if you find the ride thrilling whilst on the adventure - then thats a bonus.

Nope. only 5 steps required in any reanimated plan.

^I know, but in context the discussion isn't about anybody doing anything - so it doesn't really work in context. Besides "that doesn't even make sense Push" is something Parkz members say to make fun of Pushbuttons.

Seems like you're just importing existing ideas into the park. You're also putting this forward as a DL-Australia, but building it far bigger than any current park - including the original. Also - You've misquoted Walt, who actually said candy palace, or candy kitchen. I don't think you get both.Same with Crystal Arts and Crystal Palace. Plus - i think you've got too many Palaces... or is that Palaci? Less of a brainstorm, more of a regurgitation.

I don't see Disney ever licensing their IP to a competitor.

Retail? No. Just no. WnW has quite enough retail. They also have quite enough F&B, IMO. They are not going to impact on their competition up the road with a new hot dog stand or dog tag machine. what they need is a new groundbreaking slide \ water attraction. Triple Vortex has so far gone unanswered by WnWGC - and that sees them lagging behind.

That doesn't even make sense Push.

Except the comment was made in response to comments about the dangerousness of the smoke. I doubt Reanimated is going through there at speed, but he obviously observed that it was an issue. I'm pretty sure others have commented \ complained about the thickness of the fog too. I'm kind of in two camps about this - On the one hand - I agree with Rappa, but on the other, I see Reanimated's point - I've been to several FN's, one of which was spent in a wheelchair. It doesn't matter how slowly you go through the fog if some dipshit comes full tilt at you from the other direction... and therein lies the problem. The issue is this happens mainly in two places (which do happen to get the most fog) - Main Street, and Studio Alley. You could probably install a dividing fence to encourage one-way flows, but there'd always be the dickhead that ignored it, and crowd controllers could only do so much if a bunch of kids go tearing through at high speed. You definitely could not do the same thing on Main Street. So what do you do? I have no idea. I don't think the fog should be ditched, but I too agree there is a safety concern there. Not an issue - just a concern. It's fine enough to say 'everyone should just slow down' but you aren't getting that message through to a bunch of immature teens who care about nobody but themselves. Suggestions?

but would the construction of a test track for the El Loco have revealed this fault? Let's say the cause of the failure was metal fatigue - the ride has operated for over 3 years before the incident. Could they possibly have put the a prototype through that much testing before constructing the MW version? How much testing would be appropriate?