DaptoFunlandGuy

The winds were unusually high at the nearest weather station with an anemometer, but not specifically at the coaster, so this is just more unfounded speculation on your part. You have no evidence whatsoever.

Ah. Got it. So you have absolutely no idea what the wind readings were from the coaster's weather monitoring equipment. Just so we're clear.

Yours were?

Yep. Wonderland's wardrobe team were some of the hardest working bunch in the park!

Yeah, I'm just wondering why @Levithianmentioned it at all, since it's in both...

it was always too cheap where it was at. I feel as though it played poor cousin to FN as FN had to take up the bulk of the funding when both events were bundled with annual passes. Now each can stand on their own, perhaps they can improve the christmas offering by improving their budget too.

Because, as enthusiasts, we'd much prefer to be able to follow every minute construction detail than build giant walls to hide the mess.

I actually checked on YouTube before I replied - it definitely is in JDS: Right behind scooby castle

I'm generally in this camp too. Increasing prices for events as well as for entry \ annual passes does unfortunately mean some people can't afford to go all the time, and that is a sad situation for them to be in - but it is a priority thing and if it isn't worth that much for you to go (or to go as often) then that's the decision you make. I stopped going to FN quite some time ago as it was too crowded, and almost impossible to do everything on offer without paying a premium or visiting multiple times. I'd be quite happy to pay a higher price for a better experience.

ok, but you're wrong though....

Boot hill is still in the park though?

I mean, absolutely the woman is to be blamed for entering a ride envelope instead of asking the operator for assistance, but the "ride operator" (collectively) is also responsible if the ride envelope can be breached so easily.

Scooby Doo used to have that for fire safety. Was this an anti-valley measure or was it a cost-saving 'don't cycle almost empty' measure? As far as i'm aware it hasn't valleyed prior to that rule, and it was implemented at a time when the park was definitely pinching pennies. Sure, i'll humor you. But - let's be very clear - i'm not stating these are true. I have no basis for my suggestions - they are speculative (as are yours mind you) but they are what I would consider reasonable possibilities. (Please for the love of god let's not spend the next 10 pages dissecting this) My first thought when I heard about this was that a wheel delaminated. It's rare that it wouldn't be picked up in morning checks (especially as one of the first cycles of the day) and even rarer that it would stall the train - but it is still possible. Could they have swapped wheels with the incorrect type? (Nylon vs. Polyurethane?) If too many fast wheels are swapped for slow ones they can slow the train enough to cause a valley. And lastly, (and also the most unlikely) could something external have freakishly gotten jammed in the running gear mid-course? A bird... a stick... ? Just a reminder - this is pure speculation. The park hasn't made a statement, and they probably won't. We don't know, but many reasons have been given for why it couldn't have been wind, or solely wind. I also agree it probably wasn't these reasons - as I mentioned - this was to humor one person who can't recognise that they're sitting at a table with a lot of people who know better, but can't disclose it. I am definitely not one of them.

I tell you, the lack of work here is very disappointing. School holidays start in a week, and I don't expect they'll be able to move these straight back into the station - probably need a maintenance checkup before going back into service...

But that's the sting - "we presented you with a shit offering that day - pay us more money and try your luck again - maybe it'll be better, maybe it wont!" Thats very different to: "we're so busy we understand you might want to spend more time doing everything so for just a little more you can have another whole day to try and get everything done!" An additional day should be offered to guests at no charge with such a disastrous offering, whether issues were expected or not.

Yeah, six flags used to have this (they called it a Twicket), but I always viewed this as a "there was so much to do, we'd like to come back another day to experience everything" rather than a "everything was shut, and rather than get a refund, i'll volunteer to pay more money to waste a second day of my holiday repeating my mistakes." If you visited MovieWorld, and only Batwing, Superman and Doomsday were operating - would you want to come back?

There's a number of parks that were previously in the Taft Broadcasting \ Kings Entertainment stable that have or had similar attractions to our Wonderland. As far as Bush Beast goes, BB was a mirrored layout, with all the turns in the opposite direction down under. Canada's Wonderland (Wilde Beast), California's Great America (The Grizzly) and Kings Dominion (Grizzly) were all identical layouts other than the mirroring - these were all modelled off of the original Coney Island Wildcat. CGA's The Grizzly was retracked by GCI not too long ago and is apparently a lot smoother. Fun Fact: Some blueprints \ plans that Bush Beast was built from were actually labelled "Grizzly" while some other earlier site layout plans and documents were labelled "Wildcat", so the inspiration is quite clear! I recently did a deep dive on California's Great America after the recent announcement of its pending closure, so here's a couple examples from CGA: Still Operating: a Bayern Kurve (Wizards Fury) and Wave Swinger (Dragon's Flight), Intamin Rapids (Snowy River), and an Intamin giant drop (Space Probe), along with the usual staples such as dodgem cars etc. Defunct attractions: a looping starship (Bounty's Revenge), and a 3-armed version of our Zodiac called SkyWheel (featured in Beverly Hills Cop 3).

Word is superman was down earlier and has a 2+ hour wait right now.

what if it had a turnstile? But no, just no. another pendulum type attraction is definitely not needed - IDGAF how much capacity it has.

If there's no press release.... did it even happen? 😮

...And there you have it, quicker than anticipated! http://www.wonderlandhistory.net/sites/default/files/almost_beach1.jpg Not much more info to go from, but it looks like they were realigning the entrance to the beach to market it as a separate gate. Still no detail on what the skateboard ride was, but the overall plan is definitely intriguing and very sad it never came about...

...and the subsequent cheeky Facebook post confirms!

I've seen as much as you have at this point. The old Wonderland History website is a labour of love for the guy who runs it and it's been low on the priority list for quite some time. Things keep breaking and not getting fixed, though i've sent him the details of this page and asked if he has the media file that is missing - as that might give more clarity on what was planned. Keep an eye on that link and it might get updated in the near future.

The article refers to February 1997, and a "skateboard ride". What gives you the impression it was a surfrider similar to WNW? (wish that we had the media that was linked to that page instead of faulty code) The first Intamin Surfrider opened in 2007, and the first Intamin halfpipe opened in 2003. A 'skateboard ride' could be any number of things.

I'll give them a point for recycling the old Arkham Asylum costumes. Someone should see if the woman from the queue video with the bad american accent can reprise her role..