If you look at mesho & okamotos double loop coaster they are the same can any one explain this to me. links to the have a look. http://www.jin.ne.jp/okamotos/eg/main/01b.htm http://www.sanoyas-leisure.com/

Okamoto don't develop their own rides - their catalogue includes rides from Arrow, Meisho, Togo and other manufacturers. Think of them like the Swiss company Giovanola, who stick more to the fabricating side of things rather than developing and designing their own rides.

I really don't like Meisho, they aren't great, and there Ranger copy ride at luna park is really ugly and slow

What luna park is that. Why would Okomoto do that.

Luna Park Melbourne heres a pic

He's referring to Luna Park in Melbourne. See the ride here. I'm not sure what you mean by your second question. It's a relatively common practice in the amusement industry. It's not a question of why they do it, they just do it. EDIT: HussRainbow beat me to it.

do you like my pic richard?

Just looking at the bottom site you listed it's really cool the pics that they have of the floor plans and then a pic of the coaster. It will definately make designing them in rct a lot easier

I've been on one of those rangers it's ok but my little brother hated it becuse when it went upside down he fell up (toward the ground) until he hit the top of the harness and he closed his eyes all the rest of the ride.

Yeah, I liked hangover better, especialy the floorless vehicles, that was my first ever ride on a ride that inverts you, and i loved it. I would be interested to ride on the one at LP, it has lap bars which would make for an interesting experience. it odes look ugly, they could have painted it tan to mach the theme, no leave it in space ship colours. Im heading to Melbourne next Saturday for the footy so I will ask mum if we can go before the game. DJs' right about the meshio site being useful, it made making thunderbolt for my dreamworld re-creation much easier.