Steel Taipan Construction - Dreamworld Mack launched roller coaster

[Coasterlife]

Pretty cool video by Dreamworld

Edited July 27, 2021 by Coasterlife
I was way overhyped for this when it came out

[Im Hungry]

At least the theming will be better than The Rock.

[Guest 239]

Ah, I getcha. I did fumble my words a bit so I understand that you're confused. 

I'll elaborate; what I mean by this is that in the current thrills dominated market it's going to be very hard to dethrone rivals based on theming alone. If, for whatever reason, Steel Taipan is bad then no amount of theming will save it. If it's objective is to compete with rivals for that top spot then it's going to need to achieve that within the ride experience alone. Similarly, because that trend has been set, you're going to have a really hard time pushing anything like a dark-ride or slow-moving deeply themed experienced for the top spot because it's just not what our market is after.

[Im Hungry]

5 minutes ago, Coasterlife said:

Something Huge!!!!

I WAS WAITING SO LONG FOR THIS VIDEO. The reveal of the train (to the GP of course)...

Very sorry for releasing such energy into this forum. Although the train looks good, those eyes... Just destroyed by the fact that they won't light up... But, fair call as to why they won't.

Edited July 27, 2021 by Im Hungry

[gavinfulikes]

The new ad also shows the front of the trains

[Jdude95]

1 hour ago, Im Hungry said:

At least the theming will be better than The Rock.

You're right, we get a line of rock

[Coasterlife]

1 hour ago, Im Hungry said:

I WAS WAITING SO LONG FOR THIS VIDEO. The reveal of the train (to the GP of course)...

Very sorry for releasing such energy into this forum. Although the train looks good, those eyes... Just destroyed by the fact that they won't light up... But, fair call as to why they won't.

Do we actually know it they will light up or not? I have not really had any word on it but i would hope that they did even though you would only likely see them lit up at night events. 

[Im Hungry]

1 hour ago, Coasterlife said:

Do we actually know it they will light up or not? I have not really had any word on it but i would hope that they did even though you would only likely see them lit up at night events. 

Given the following snake-headed zero cars, this zero car model tends to come with lights (this isn't saying much, as the standard model can be fitted with lights too):

Steel Taipan will be the odd one out (unless the lights are present behind the eye and light the entire eye up to make it 'glow'):

Icon pic by Blackpool Pleasure Beach

Helix pic from Wikipedia

Velociraptor pic from Falcon's Creative Group on YouTube

Steel Taipan pic from Dreamworld on TikTok

[Gazza]

Looks fangtastic.

[New display name]

The eyes look way better than any lights.

[Im Hungry]

That's true tbh. It looks natural for those slots to be used as eyes instead...

 

On second glance, it looks like Toothless from How to Train Your Dragon:

Edited July 27, 2021 by Im Hungry

[joz]

Props to them for the video. That's the first bit of actual hype I've seen for any ride for a long time. 

[Naazon]

16 hours ago, Gazza said:

I think I'll be damn close, there will visitors that prefer ST to DCR or even SE because it "has loops" and a triple launch.

Im not sure how many people on here have ridden BF or it's clones but it's a top ride in the world with a really well balanced layout and the final roll is the best thing ever, a true WTF moment you have to experience to understand.

Would you prefer the final roll in Blue Fire or the initial roll in Takabisha?

[Gazza]

Gawd, night and day.

The roll at the start of Takabish is not really too different to the initial roll on Abyss at AW, or even the final roll on GL. Both a bit slow with hangtime, still “fun” though.

Meanwhile the one on BF / ST is taken at full speed with a bit of whip and spins very rapidly.

(Which reminds me, the corkscrews on ST will be good as well, they have the flick at the top which gives you a bit of a head spin compared to the fairly continuous spiral you would get on Corkscrew/SV)

 

https://www.coastercrazy.com/forums/holiday-park-26-04-09-europa-park-27-28-04-09-t20459.html

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This last barrel roll is the most intense element I have ever experienced, you really get the felling to fall out of your seat with great force. Damn what a awesome ride, best in the world possibly.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/rollercoasters/comments/74r0t3/coaster_discussion_of_the_day_16_blue_fire_europa/

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the final barrel roll (normally an element I dislike) has a shocking kick to it that's unlike anything else I've felt.

http://www.incrediblecoasters.com/BlueFirePhotos.html

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A nice chance to...HOLY SH*T!!! OH MY GOD!!! We just PLOW through an inline twist, and if you thought those corkscrews were agressive, this final inline twist on Blue Fire is just...dumbfounding. It is the 2nd strongest inversion on any coaster, only losing out to Ispeed.

 

Edited July 27, 2021 by Gazza

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

Can we get back to discussing concrete now?

[New display name]

16 hours ago, CaptainLazerGuns said:

I'll elaborate; what I mean by this is that in the current thrills dominated market it's going to be very hard to dethrone rivals based on theming alone..

Is it the guest or the theme parks pushing the thrills dominated market?  If you compare MW or DW to Disney, who has the most thrill rides?  How many Hyper coasters does Disney have?  How many spins and spews do they have?  How many Aussie families travel to the USA and visit 6 flags over Universal or Disney?

I believe people love non-thrill rides and if you put a good non-thrill ride against Rivals you could beat it.   (have you never played roller coaster tycoon?)

 

10 hours ago, Im Hungry said:

On second glance, it looks like Toothless from How to Train Your Dragon:

 

No.

10 hours ago, joz said:

Props to them for the video. That's the first bit of actual hype I've seen for any ride for a long time. 

I thought it was ok too but I thought the logo on the train was shown too many times, if I was to be picky.   (that's because I really don't like the logo)

@Slickit's always good to get your thoughts on this stuff?  (you can even tell us if it's yours😀)

 

13 minutes ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

Can we get back to discussing concrete now?

You need to drink a cup of cement and wait your turn.👍

[Guest 239]

9 minutes ago, New display name said:

Is it the guest or the theme parks pushing the thrills dominated market?  If you compare MW or DW to Disney, who has the most thrill rides?  How many Hyper coasters does Disney have?  How many spins and spews do they have?  How many Aussie families travel to the USA and visit 6 flags over Universal or Disney?

I'm referring to Australia here. It's been a long time since our theme parks have shown interest in anything beyond thrills except for Sky Voyager but even though its touted as 'Moderate Thrills' with an epic up-beat trailer on their website which shows you that they don't have faith in the themed experience of the attraction alone https://www.dreamworld.com.au/rides-experiences/family-rides/sky-voyager/ 

I feel VRTP and Ardent got stuck in a race to the bottom when they were competing for world records back in the day and that just set the trend for the industry. Even if you placed something like Mystic Manor in Dreamworld they'd have a really hard time selling that within the market they've created and I feel the lukewarm reception of Sky Voyager also shows this. 

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I believe people love non-thrill rides and if you put a good non-thrill ride against Rivals you could beat it. 

As do I. It's why people decide to travel internationally for a richer theme park experience, but within the domestic market you're basically just stuck with thrills. 

[Slick]

32 minutes ago, New display name said:

@Slickit's always good to get your thoughts on this stuff?  (you can even tell us if it's yours😀)

Not mine but agreed for a train reveal (?) it's pretty cool - really dig those kind of shots where they've gone to the effort of lighting small details (like the spinning wheel) which all add up. It'll be a shame if those eyes don't light up though - I kind of half expected them to at the end there. As I said before though, given my longstanding history with the park (and its ruinous fan-pages which trade mate's private conversations for influence) it'd be in bad taste to be openly critical at this point. That being said, there's a lot to like in this latest clip, so kudos to Dreamworld (and whichever agency they paid top dollar to do it).

 

15 minutes ago, CaptainLazerGuns said:

and I feel the lukewarm reception of Sky Voyager also shows this. 

I'd say the lukewarm reception of Sky Voyager was an end to end failure that's been well documented on Parkz - from endless delays, to different messaging half way through, to the uninspired, precinct destroying facade, to the Brisbane Technology Park queue line - the list goes on. The ride itself is really solid - not Soarin' good, but having seen a lot of Brogent's (and others) ride films, we definitely got something that's better than 90% of what's out there. Sadly the sum of Sky Voyager's parts don't make it a word of mouth worthy attraction, which is what flying theatres rely on to generate more gate and ROI.

There were better and cheaper ways to execute that ride from the marketing ride through to the experience, and I pray to any/all dieties that it's failure doesn't ruin the future of dark rides in this country. Stuff like ETF's Mystic Mover or Vekoma's Madhouse are easy wins for the first park that gets them - the big challenge however will be getting executives out of the creative phase and letting creatives be creative so we can start having some Bermuda Triangle style executions and not Sky Voyager style executions.

Edited July 28, 2021 by Slick

[New display name]

@CaptainLazerGunsI 100% agree with Slick and he has articulated it so well that I don't need to add to it.

[Guest 239]

Great points and I absolutely agree with everything you say here, but in a way I feel it only shows further that locally our parks have no idea when it comes to rich, themed experiences. Integration, story, execution, etc. were all fumbled with the project and those can't just be simply palmed off. I still have no idea why they made some decisions like the facade when they could have just as easily made it look like a Victorian airline hanger that would fit the land and themed it to the early days of flight in Australia that leads into what the current film, but instead we got a modern airport baggage claim facility? I like Sky Voyager - It's a fun, solid experience once you actually get to riding it but nothing about the themed experience is inspiring. 

I've said it before but if our parks really want to move forward then they need to stop competing domestically and start having their eyes set on the world stage. A lot of people regard the early days of Movie World as being the peak of themed entertainment in Australia and it makes sense because it was designed by C. V. Wood who was the chief developer of Disneyland. Thanks to Disney getting trigger happy with their layoffs there is now a ton of really experienced designers, engineers and artists who are floating around waiting for their next opportunity and if one of our parks wants to get the leg up they should be scooping up that talent, or at least embracing the already brilliant creative minds that exist within Australia instead of executives feeling like each project is their personal clay pot that they need to mould. 

On that note, I think the painted concrete is nice. Don't @ me. 

 

[Gazza]

1 hour ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

Can we get back to discussing concrete now?

Umm, no?

We're talking about the coaster, it's entirely relevant to the topic.

Quit trying to derail every topic or poll with what you think people should be talking about.

[Slick]

25 minutes ago, CaptainLazerGuns said:

Great points and I absolutely agree with everything you say here, but in a way I feel it only shows further that locally our parks have no idea when it comes to rich, themed experiences. Integration, story, execution, etc. were all fumbled with the project and those can't just be simply palmed off. I still have no idea why they made some decisions like the facade when they could have just as easily made it look like a Victorian airline hanger that would fit the land and themed it to the early days of flight in Australia that leads into what the current film, but instead we got a modern airport baggage claim facility? I like Sky Voyager - It's a fun, solid experience once you actually get to riding it but nothing about the themed experience is inspiring. 

I've said it before but if our parks really want to move forward then they need to stop competing domestically and start having their eyes set on the world stage. A lot of people regard the early days of Movie World as being the peak of themed entertainment in Australia and it makes sense because it was designed by C. V. Wood who was the chief developer of Disneyland. Thanks to Disney getting trigger happy with their layoffs there is now a ton of really experienced designers, engineers and artists who are floating around waiting for their next opportunity and if one of our parks wants to get the leg up they should be scooping up that talent, or at least embracing the already brilliant creative minds that exist within Australia instead of executives feeling like each project is their personal clay pot that they need to mould. 

On that note, I think the painted concrete is nice. Don't @ me. 

 

100% agreed - I think, simply put - as noted by imagineers in the case of Bermuda Triangle, we used to make really good shit for a lot less than anyone else. But during the GFC we traded passionate, skilled in-house creative for cost-savings and risk aversion, and we're yet to get the balance right. And finding that balance will require chairmen and CEO's who want to act less like Walt Disney (micro-managing decision making at every level) and more like Bob Iger (supporting and allowing space for professionals to flourish). 

Edited July 28, 2021 by Slick

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

1 hour ago, New display name said:

I believe people love non-thrill rides and if you put a good non-thrill ride against Rivals you could beat it.   (have you never played roller coaster tycoon?)

Is that you, @pushbutton?

47 minutes ago, Gazza said:

Umm, no?

We're talking about the coaster, it's entirely relevant to the topic.

Quit trying to derail every topic or poll with what you think people should be talking about.

*whoosh*

 

[New display name]

Both the major parks have gone the way of a Maccas version of a theme park.  Yes, it might be profitable, but it never leaves you satisfied and sometimes it gives you gas. 

It feels like Village is going down the slippery slope of DW with their current management.  The state Bikash left SW in was crazy.  I have never seen so many bad reviews thrown at a theme park in such a short time.

[Jdude95]

2 hours ago, New display name said:

Both the major parks have gone the way of a Maccas version of a theme park.  Yes, it might be profitable, but it never leaves you satisfied and sometimes it gives you gas. 

It feels like Village is going down the slippery slope of DW with their current management.  The state Bikash left SW in was crazy.  I have never seen so many bad reviews thrown at a theme park in such a short time.

Shit, be careful or he might randomly appear to try and take legal action against you for pointing out his failures.