Steel Taipan Construction - Dreamworld Mack launched roller coaster

[Richard]

A few things worth considering:

1. Rivals had a (planned) delay of several months between foundations being laid and track showing up. 
2. Like Rivals which started preliminary groundwork in late August, that's already happening at Dreamworld.
3. Reports out of Germany suggest track is already being fabricated. So don't necessarily expect a delay between foundations and vertical construction this time.

[themagician]

@Brad2912 oh yeah, completely forgot we are actually in that quarter now. Awesome.

So we might possibly see the coaster ready for the Easter holidays if we’re lucky. But winter holidays seems like it most likely 

[Jamberoo Fan]

1 hour ago, crowd said:

While on the Train today noticed a lot of survey markers round the Train shed area not sure if they have to do with coaster as couldn't see any in the plot of land it is meant to sit on

Most likely for the twisted reverse halfpipe as per the video.

[themagician]

Nearmap update from August 17

The entire amphitheatre has now been removed

And here is the coaster site in its current state

[Jamberoo Fan]

Looking at those satellite images, it also confirms another part (Toboggan tower was demolished relatively quickly) of Blue Lagoon was demolished finally (though still sad as it was a wonderfully themed area compared to Whitewater World) - mainly some of the souvenir, food & beverage shops &/or amenities. (I can't remember which building had what).

Edited August 26, 2019 by Jamberoo Fan

[red dragin]

2 hours ago, Richard said:

A few things worth considering:

1. Rivals had a (planned) delay of several months between foundations being laid and track showing up. 
2. Like Rivals which started preliminary groundwork in late August, that's already happening at Dreamworld.
3. Reports out of Germany suggest track is already being fabricated. So don't necessarily expect a delay between foundations and vertical construction this time.

You would expect better soil conditions at Dreamworld which would make construction easier too. 

[New display name]

35 minutes ago, red dragin said:

You would expect better soil conditions at Dreamworld which would make construction easier too. 

Except if DW just added a lot of fill.  

[red dragin]

There was rock close to the surface prior to the fill, wasn't there? Vs swampy land around MW. 

[New display name]

I have no idea what is under DW but the mosquitoes say a swamp is about and when I ride VC it looks like a swamp.

I don't know how much fill was added to the area but it will have some impact.

Edited August 26, 2019 by Skeeta

[themagician]

@Jamberoo Action Park you are correct

[GeorgeT]

Hey guys...this is GeorgeT from Germany again...I took part in the discussion when DC Rivals was being build. You know what? I am a little surprised that there are so little positive let alone raving reactions about the spinning car. As a regular visitor of Europa Park even after hundreds of rides on Blue Fire I still enjoy that coaster a lot. Even without a spinning feature. And yes, I know that it`s not everybodys cup of tea when a coaster car is spinning...but I really do think that riding Blue Fire in a spinning car will be one of the best coaster experinces on the planet for those who`re not getting too dizzy from it. I can`t even describe how jealous I am that you are getting that feature while our Blue Fire version stays normal...so, can I see some more excitement please? 😀

Edited August 27, 2019 by GeorgeT

[New display name]

@GeorgeT people are in shock.  DW are getting a proper coaster after 20 years of disappointment so this might awhile to sink in.   🤣🤣🤣

 

PCL still believe Parkz is climbing trees and are waiting for a personal briefing from DW.

[joz]

Parkz is really going out on a limb with this stuff isn't it?

 

Fair point you know, no one has really said anything about the spinning car. I'll be keen to give it a go, no idea what it'll be like so curious about it. At the rate I'm going I'll probably end up doing spinning car before I do backwards Rivals.

[Flynn_Smith]

Curious to see as to how much DreamWorld will be charging for this seat, or if they will charge at all. 

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

25 minutes ago, Flynn_Smith said:

Curious to see as to how much DreamWorld will be charging for this seat, or if they will charge at all. 

Honestly, it's a no-brainer. Imagine if the backwards row had no charge on Rivals... currently people pay for a wristband, and essentially walk on (albeit, probably a couple of cycles). If the row was free, offered a different experience, and had limited capacity, the queue would blow out.

It would be like offering Flowrider free of charge. It'd get a queue the minute it opened, and they'd be turning people away all day.

This was discussed to death for Rivals (i'm sure there's a thread on it somewhere), and i'm 100% dreamworld will be charging for it (Although, in usual 'give away the gate' fashion, I fully expect everyone who renews their pass to get one free ride or something)

[Naazon]

I wonder what would happen if back row was free and rather than buying a back row wristband, you bought a 1 time use fast pass, choosing which seat you wanted. They could then let on more than 2 paid riders per train if they wanted, and also fill every train no matter what. Although queue logistics would suffer.

 

On that, the spinning row has 4 seats so assuming they sell at the same rate as Movieworld, they could be set to make double from it, but the general queue suffers with the loss of 2 extra seats.

I'm fine with the bonus row but would prefer if the train was left alone and they added a whole extra section at the back, although that would involve further design and engineering changing the weight and length dynamics.

[joz]

Just on that the bloke from MACK needs to stop saying 'Free spinning'.

 

We're also assuming that this ride gets them back to an attendance level where queues and capacity are a problem. I don't think it will. I think attendance will be noticeably up, but it alone won't get them to preaccident levels. Between that and the fact the spinning car has 4 seats, it should end up being a lot cheaper than backwards Rivals.

[New display name]

I can't work out why DW are only putting a spinning car on 1 train.  (according to Mack Rides).

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

probably lost in translation, but my interpretation was that 1 spinning car would be at the back of each train

[Flynn_Smith]

Wouldn't there be a huge weight difference between a train with a spinning car, and one without it? The launch speed would be greatly affected by the difference, no?

I also thought it was supposed to mean that 1 car was at the back of each train.

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

I know of several coasters that weigh the train prior to despatch and adjust launch speeds and forces accordingly, so weight shouldn't be an issue (plus you could always just add weight to a train to ensure consistency), but yes, 1 spinner on each train

[Inverted]

I am excited for the triple launch but I think it being add on to existing model will be a let down and here is why.

Blue fire uses the whole launch to get to it's desired speed of first turn, and this is the same length of track that DW coaster is using.  However because it's doing a triple launch it won't accelerator the whole way as it needs to reverse.  (Even see the launch track on the video they don't go whole way).    So the launch will be somewhat slow and then coast down the length before reverse.   Then do same back before final launch to speed BF runs to make the hill.    

The small amount of LSM launch track could give underwhelming launch fitting to an existing design that uses LSM the whole length.    Hope I'm wrong.

I'd also prefer a half loop design rather than the corkscrew.    The hang time at the back would be awesome and make more exciting.  But that's just my opinion.

Also the mid track brake run.  Being Australia will probably only get 2 trains I'd prefer to see an element in here.  

Also the first hill will look cool above SV when viewing from main Street.

Edit- just noted alot of my points were stated in the parkz main post. Great minds something something...

Edited August 28, 2019 by Inverted
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[Gazza]

But Buzzsaw does a half loop with hang time when you get halfway through its standard cycle , so it's probably better to do a different element to provide some variety, especially given the close proximity.

[pushbutton]

It could be that Buzzsaw is just under maintenance, but it looks like the beginning of  something far more exciting to me! 

 

Edited August 29, 2019 by pushbutton

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

Can't you read? It's just buzzsaw maintenance. NOTHING TO SEE HERE PEOPLE, MOVE ALONG