DaptoFunlandGuy

I'm going to buck the trend here and welcome the addition of some new, modern body slides. Too many slides in previous years have relied upon a gimmick, or a raft, and lately more attractions have specific group and rider requirements making a waterslide a much more cumbersome experience than the old days of WhiteWaterMountain - especially for single riders who can't experience some of these without partnering up with some random. Sure these ones have the new translucent sections which make the body slide more of an experience than it used to be - these sorts of slides have existed at van parks and resorts up and down the gold coast for more than a decade so it's great to see WNW finally entering the new Milennium.

What part of didn't you understand?

In such a free democracy you can bet the people would be loudly shouting in the street if there were...

Disney cares, but only until it affects their bottom line. Agree - but also the middle east knows the oil money isn't going to last forever as more EVs, more renewable energy sources etc. The whole concept of dubai, 'the palms' and 'the world', Saudi Arabia's 'the line'. They've been exploding their tourism opportunities while the cash keeps rolling in to try and establish tourism industries that will support their countries economy when the oil platforms they were built on are no longer required (or required to the same extent at least). So this is kind of a win win for both parties - Disney gets a lot of money from the new venture, and Miral gets a non-fossil-fueled venture with a licence to print money (possibly). This is still just agreement phase - there's no designs or concepts yet so the sky is literally the limit on what they build. But there are also plenty of Disney plans that made it to design and concept that never got over the line - so don't book your flights just yet.

I think there's still a bit of a psychological barrier for them in bringing a water attraction back to the park. Further - Rocky Hollow's area is essentially greenfields at this point and can coast by unnoticed. The GIANT WALL blocking out Troll's Village is a much bigger sore thumb in the current lineup. When King Claw opens, the people who have focussed on the new attractions - (Dreamland, Sky Voyager, Taipan, Jungle Rush and Vintage Cars) will return to Ocean Parade (seriously, I can't recall the last time I entered OP proper. Shockwave, Tailspin and GoldCoaster haven't been much reason to draw me to that dead end). With the focus on King Claw, I do think Dreamworld needs to tidy up the end of OP. Whether that sees retirement of Gold Coaster, installation of a new flat into FlowRider's space, reinvigoration of the 'worlds' gate between the two parks, replacement of trolls village with something new and hopefully permanent - i've no idea, but i think that area will have more eyes on it than Rocky Hollow has in the near future - and it's where they should put their attentions if they want to convince people to keep coming back. Rocky Hollow can be an entire world expansion with multiple attractions when the time and the budget is right.

The clock on the world's reliance on oil has reached the eleventh hour. Tokyo was so successful because OLC spared no expense, knew their local population, and knew what would make money. I worry about the middle east parks. There's been plenty of them planned that have not eventuated. Unlike other successful parks that are based in major population centres with a supportive local population, this park will need people to fly in from all over to support it, else it will only cater to those super rich tycoons that can afford to splash the cash on lavish VIP experiences. It does demonstrate to anyone who thinks a park should be built in Australia that the only way it gets done is if you pay for it yourself. Disney isn't footing the bill for this park - all their non-US parks have struggled for a significant part of their lives.

The two don't have to be mutually exclusive. both parks could utilise parts of this space. Remember - it was a dry park plot first. There doesn't have to be a net gain, though you're looking at it quite simplistically... Adding in Galaxy's Edge to Disneyland is a big, needed capacity expansion for a park as small as disneyland, but on the other hand take a look at some of the moves Universal is making - closing older attractions and zones for the next big thing - In Singapore, part of Madagascar became Minions, and the rest will also become Nintendo land in the future too. In Gold Coaster's case as Naazon mentioned - you can get a lot more bang for buck taking out one old rollercoaster that is getting on in years, and replacing it with several attractions as part of a masterplanned expansion that capitalises on the overall space and is designed cohesively. Remember Cyclone was essentially placed where it was because it 'fit'. It had to work in amongst Thunderbolt, and was designed for a landscape that Dreamworld didn't have, so the entire thing had to be massively elevated. So much could be done with the plot underneath - just look at what Luna Park had in and around the coaster when it existed there!

Disagree. Dreamworld is already pretty damn big. there is plenty of space inside the current park envelope for them to expand without needing more. Thunderbolt. Troll's Village & FlowRider. Rocky Hollow. There's also opportunity to do something with the Murrisippi and the island as long as they preserve the waterway. As time goes on you start to see other attractions due for refurb or retirement - Motocoaster is 18 this year - maybe they invest in a retheme and refresh to give it another decade or maybe they decide to pull it in favour of developing the plot into something else? (lord knows the dead zone between Giant Drop and Main Street Station could use something to liven it up). There's also potential to slip something inside of Taipan's footprint, or Buzzsaw's plot, and cyclone\gold coaster can't have much more life left in it, surely? I'd love to see them take the convention centre building and turn it into an indoor attraction complex with an ocean-related theme to tie-in to Ocean Parade.

and maybe when that part of the park comes up next for redevelopment and renovation they can consider it. The fire station wasn't part of the Rivertown budget. So they have to allocate resources. There is a safety need for them to exclude people from the fire truck, they made a permanent fence, which is inoffensive and doesn't break the bank. i'd rather they did this than skimp on ops expenses like not running their second train on rides to save a few bucks...

The cheapest option is black powdercoated pool\perimeter fence panels with slide on mounting brackets and posts bolted into the ground. these posts have had holes cored out and then new posts cemented into the ground with no protruding fixings, the panel mounts are welded to each panel, each panel is more decorative with an additional crossmember towards the top, plus it is coloured to blend with the painted cement behind it, which does help (a little) in making the fence disappear into the background and allow the fire truck to pop. It might not be your design preference, but it isn't a bad choice for safety, preventing small climbers from gaining access, and it certainly isn't the cheapest way to have gone about it.

I think they'd be better off putting a burger joint inside. Those other places didn't work out for people like freddy mercury.

If WWW is to gain popularity - it needs to offer more than a single burger joint at the front gate - with some more variety too.... Having something straddle both parks would make an outlet like that more viable, and reduce the strain on the burger joint at the front.

to be clear, I'm not necessarily suggesting someone will get fried from playing an electronic game while wet. My thoughts are more towards the longevity of the machines as control surfaces corrode quicker from exposure to chlorinated water. I think the idea - to utilise existing staff to man the gate between the parks - is a good one. But do you put the gate on the WWW side or the DW side? Staff would have to be present at the gate - so what if a machine has a fault that has to be checked by the arcade staff? are people likely to wait at the gate to be let in happily, angrily, or start jumping the fence if noone is there? Does the gate at whichever end you have it prevent the other park guests from visiting the arcade without buzzing in (which would be a pain not worth it - passing up sales if staff aren't at the gate) I think they'd do well to have a dockside style food outlet there - and food counter staff are more likely to be at their register and able to buzz people through than arcade staff (or you can have the gate in the middle with counter service, register and seating on both sides). Plus it gives WWW another food outlet in peak times - because off peak it's closed anyway. Stick some nice brews on tap and you've got a similar opportunity to the bar WnW had next to the wave pool... and you're more likely to make some extra coin off people at that end of the waterpark through food sales than you are taking a tween's pocket money for some basketball.

It's a dry park. Splash pad play isn't the core activity for the area so dealing with a handful of parents with toddlers in swimmers and asking them to change is a lot different to having literally every person in the park soaking wet. I've visited plenty of water parks and can't say arcades have featured highly in any of them.

I'm not sure we want kids in wet swimmers playing with electronic games - but even if that was ok, I don't really want to sit down in a wet seat for a car race either. Arcades do not belong in waterparks.