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Was doing research literally just creating this topic?

Spoken like a true DW Spokesperson. They've been pushing the unfavourable weather narrative from the moment they announced the attraction. DW know it, they've changed their wording recently on when you can expect to open it. There is also hardly ANY paid media advertising around this ride currently, and I'd be willing to bet they have no idea when it will open.

Key word being almost, the entire top section of both inside and outside are missing their panels. Still a lot of work to do just to the structure itself, let alone everything else. MM looks like it has at a guess, almost a month of theming work to go. There's A LOT to do in 66 days. You've got one team of theming contractors doing that entire side of the build alone, trying to complete two attractions. Doesn't matter how much they've done in a short timeframe, if they still miss the opening.

Getting conflicting messages from you here... I doubt they will be open this week.

This whole project is designed to make the land more favourable for sale, not for Dreamworld themselves to develop.

The Flash required more than 500 cycles for it to be completed.... so this is not true. Jogging a coaster between the maintenance bay, and the station is not a cycle.

State have a set amount of hours it needs to operate also, same goes for carnival rides, albeit less hours. Industry contacts provided me with that information. But there is a lot of information in other press releases across the world specifically for the Mack coasters and their commissioning requirements. Check the IAAPA database. This is correct when referencing reach/clearance tests, which we were not. Before an attraction can be fully "energised" or complete full circuits, all of the rides envelope is required to be fully secured. Once that happens the footprint is naturally classed as a red zone, meaning no one is inside that area, nor able to work within the space. Temporary construction fencing is not classified as envelope fencing, so they would need to fully construct and finish anything main fences around the area. Doing this would obviously inhibit the work needing to be done on the surrounding area, including MM.

It's not just based on the forces the attraction are under though. This also has a large, complex moving element, more than any standard switch track, this will take time and I imagine will warrant a large amount of required cycles too. As I said above though, it's not JUST about the scenic elements, it's about having a completed footprint. For an attraction to be fully "energised" and operated within QLD it needs a fully secured ride envelope. JR does not currently have that, and would require the build to be further along for that to be completed. Regardless of that, they still have an attraction that is arguably not even 50% complete, some of which is within the coasters footprint, and also forms part of the main entrance of this land. I truly struggle to see this being opened in 2024.

Steel Taipan and Rivals both needed 1000 cycles before being complaint and able to operate with guests. It's set by both the state and the manufacture, most have a minimum of 100 hours before running with guests, you can do the math on that. Correct, at night, within a completed ride envelope. JR doesn't have that currently. It isn't testing, it's been jogged from the maintenance bay to the station, purely to allow the other train to be installed. From all the footage we've now seen, it doesn't look like there is any work taking place within the footprint of the attraction, and the fences all look complete...

Keep drinking the cool aid mate. They have changed their wording in most of their recent digital content to "we're hoping to still have it opened" or "we're aiming for late December still". That doesn't fill me with much confidence. We're seeing barely any paid media advertising around the new land, and the only reason that is, is because they don't have confidence in any date yet. We've seen more for a ride that isn't opening till 2025. JR is "almost" complete physically, but they haven't even started cycling the attraction yet. They will need to do a few thousand cycles before it's compliant. To my understanding that can't happen until the attraction is finished physically, including scenic. There is easily a few months of work left overall, they're seriously pushing it to have it completed this year imo.

This has been the endgame for the Coast business for quite a while now. Greg and the rest of the Coast Executive team stand to directly benefit with its sale, this is still their focus.

Main issues here with your post are, the fact that one of your examples is from an international park, with vastly different safety requirements, secondly flat rides have different requirements than coasters do. Queensland has some of the strictest laws in the country surrounding attractions, I'd imagine their hands are tied with this.

Would this not be a positive thing?

Point is, they've had months to do so. If you're closing you park for months, you should be opening with every attraction operating. You mean like other life guards who are also training? You don't close a park for months, to then "soft open" it again.

True, but surely you'd do that with enough time to open the season with your entire park operating?

Wet 'n' Wild has enough PPT staff to run the park during non peak periods, and hire more during peak. All the parks do; just helps having a group of people to begin with, and not starting from scratch each time. They're not advertising for lifeguards at the moment, so it's probably not even that?

Considering every bit of concept art we've seen come out of this land is drastically different, it's pretty apparent DW have no idea what the fuck they were doing.

For clarity, I was comparing just Twister and Wicked Witch. Not JuR. Of course, but both have the same advertised opening time. This whole discussion was who would open first, and on time. So thank you for confirming what I was saying.

One of the big struggles/cons of operating seasonally, is having to rebuild your staff from the ground up each season.

Based off the latest NearMap shots, the Kansas Twister has a far larger, and imo more complicated ride envelope. FOTWW is far more contained than the other. By that logic, it's also had 3 coasters to build in that same time.

Perhaps you should jump on Flash or Rivals and check it out? I'm sure you'd get a pretty decent view from there. Regardless, they're already installing trains on the track, I don't imagine they'd be doing that if they weren't close to being finished in at least the ride envelopes? DW don't seem close to being ready for this step.

What have they been doing whilst the park was closed? Surely if you're running the park seasonally, you'd have time to do every bit of annual maintenance in the downtime? What's the excuse here?

Thanks /s

Looks like MW is winning the race at the moment, this is starting to look pretty close to being physically complete. Wonder how far behind Dreamworld is?

Keep drinking the Kool Aid kiddo.