The New Atlantis - Construction Updates

[T-bone]

I’ve been on both, Wipeout was always a better experience for me than the Huss top spin. That’s my personal experience. 
 

Like doomsday was an odd choice for Movie World, Vortex in my mind continues the trend of weird choices for a new attraction.

[Zanstabar]

My visit to the park yesterday was my first experience seeing Vortex and The New Atlantis since construction had gone vertical, and the lack of anything "natural" was immediately apparent. The entryway to New Atlantis and the dolphin lagoons no longer feel welcoming as they once did, as giant concrete forms aren't as charming as a well maintained landscape. 

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't think there is any charm, soul or personality to the New Atlantis. It just feels so very clinical, which feels so weird for a theme park.

 

[joz]

I've yet to see anything open with good landscaping TBH. Presumably the whole entry structure is meant to have plants on it and I'd hope they're intending to have some greenery. The lack of shade around there is a thing that will need to be sorted, some trees could go a long way towards making it a pleasant place to be 

[red dragin]

Established plants are quite expensive, hence why they use smaller trees and wait for them to grow. 

[Rydah Hi]

Sea Crete on their Instagram posted a new photo of the Vortex, which this time.. it's in the area. We can get a good look at the ride, and the queue line.

Edited July 16, 2020 by Rydah Hi

[Smol bean]

Queue lines a little bland but I do Like the entrance with Poseidon on it

 

Edited July 16, 2020 by Smol bean

[T-bone]

It’s like stepping straight into a film blue screen sound stage... or is it the blue screen of death?

[rappa]

Commercial awnings, commercial light fittings...

There just isn’t anything themed about it. Nicely presented yes, themed no. 

Themed 

[TomiJ]

Which queue line is themed better??? 

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Personaly I prefer the theming of DW's Wipeout over VORTEX. I loved walking through the wave to get onto Wipeout. I'm aware it is a little hard to judge based of an image. But than again VORTEX was meant to open in 2019.

Edited July 16, 2020 by TomiJ
And no I'm not sucking one parks dick and shitting on the other.

[rappa]

Easily Wipeout was because it had one. 
 

I maintain again that Vortex is not themed. 

[StingRay]

So Vortex is virtually Wipeout and the queue line for the ride is from The Claw.

[red dragin]

The kitty has $x million dollars in it.

Do you
(a) build a good ride, that people will complain about the poor themeing on, or;
(b) build a poor ride that people will complain about with good themeing.

[rappa]

I build a good ride, nicely present it and say I’m doing so. 
 

I don’t build a nicely presented ride, and release it with completely false representations of immersive theming and state that this theming will be world class. 
 

It is possible to not theme something whilst also not under delivering on expectations. 

[red dragin]

Agree, they over represented the 'theming' planned, but also that plan was released 17 months ago, designed even earlier than that. The world has changed and the $$$'s have dried up.

I'd imagine we would have gotten better (but not exactly the plans) had the world continued on normally.

[Gazza]

 

[rappa]

15 minutes ago, red dragin said:

I’d imagine we would have gotten better (but not exactly the plans) had the world continued on normally.

I don’t, I think is is exactly what we would have got. 
There would have been an initial concept where everyone went ooo aaah we’re building this (which actually would have been world class, whatever that means). 
But then the usual death by committee nature of their construction would kick in, money would be absorbed by endless nonsense that does nothing for the finished product and in the end the project team would have taken a step back with what they’d turned it into and patted themselves on the back for producing such amazing theming. This is what happens when you have construction people in charge of design decisions instead of artistic people. And that’s exactly why Disney and Universal are good at what they do and others aren’t. 

[red dragin]

Just now, rappa said:

I don’t, I think is is exactly what we would have got. 

So, how would you theme 'Vortex' with a sensible (non Disney budget)? The first image I get when someone says Vortex, is a tornado like structure, which is not a practical thing to replicate given the shear size (and height restrictions).

[rappa]

If I didn’t have the budget to I wouldn’t. But I wouldn’t say I was going to either. 
 

Also this... 

 

[Gazza]

Just now, red dragin said:

So, how would you theme 'Vortex' with a sensible (non Disney budget)? The first image I get when someone says Vortex, is a tornado like structure, which is not a practical thing to replicate given the shear size (and height restrictions).

Pick a theme/name that can be done attractively for the budget.

Not a vague one like "Vortex" that is hard to do.

 

[red dragin]

1 minute ago, Gazza said:

Not a vague one like "Vortex" that is hard to do.

Yep, the name doesn't lend itself to any easy theming. At least 'The Whirlpool' lets you use ground level and down. With some walls all around it, you could design the inside to force perspective a large hole. Perhaps this was the original idea but the name wasn't possible (what with the appliance company, internet forum etc).

[Naazon]

13 minutes ago, red dragin said:

Yep, the name doesn't lend itself to any easy theming. At least 'The Whirlpool' lets you use ground level and down. With some walls all around it, you could design the inside to force perspective a large hole. Perhaps this was the original idea but the name wasn't possible (what with the appliance company, internet forum etc).

Also Wet N Wilds attraction... you know the same company...

[Gazza]

7 minutes ago, red dragin said:

With some walls all around it, you could design the inside to force perspective a large hole. Perhaps this was the original idea but the name wasn't possible (what with the appliance company, internet forum etc).

Even some walls and a forced perspective hole isn't that good.

rappas pic of Talocan above I think sums up the benchmark for top spin rides.

Even if you didn't do such huge theming, the way the stonework looks gives it real character, and you could do some other thing like "Wrath of {Atlantean Character}"

If they were determined to do a vortex themed ride, then do it with a spinning ride which more readily lends itself to arranging columns etc around it in a concentric manner, as if they are being sucked towards the ride.

[joz]

What Gazza said.

[pin142]

54 minutes ago, Naazon said:

Also Wet N Wilds attraction... you know the same company...

Everyone forgets about Wet'N'Wild, even the company.

[red dragin]

1 hour ago, Naazon said:

Also Wet N Wilds attraction... you know the same company...

Yeah, no one wants to see me in swimming gear, haven't been to Wet n Wild in 12 years. Hence why I forget about it.