DaptoFunlandGuy

Yeah you're not wrong, though the generally does a lot of heavy lifting. There's a lot of assumptions in the scenario, and the retail worker could just as easily take that experience into salaried employment making far more than what is shown here. But for the sake of completeness for those who won't crunch the numbers themselves (and thankfully I didn't ditch the spreadsheet just yet!) Other assumptions I didn't factor include penalty rates and overtime, so the retail guy can absolutely pull further ahead. Chances are the graduate is putting in more than a 38 hour work week for no additional remuneration in some fields too - swings and roundabouts really. Assuming 12% super, and a simple 10% earnings rate on your super (Super Guarantee legislation calculates earnings on unpaid super at a simple 10% rate and I don't really care to look at long term industry earnings rates to be bothered using any other rates - the point is they've both got the same rate, so apples with apples as they say). By the end of the 13 years in the previous example, the retail worker is still ahead on super. Given the rapidly increasing salary of the graduate, it won't take long for the graduate to overtake, but again for the critics - this is a simplistic example - with 6-8 years experience the graduate is potentially climbing the ladder too. The graduate is still 6-7 grand behind the retail pleb, plus they still owe $113k in HECS to boot. If I keep everything the same from that point on - (let's say the graduate has topped out on salary at age 30) then it takes until they're nearly 42 years old before the HECS is paid off. By that time they've got an extra $180k in super. Short of things like covid stimulus, most people won't be able to touch their super for another few decades though, so Super is definitely the long game, but the short term sacrifice in super earnings does pay off - IF you succeed in your chosen field of study.

Depends on a lot of factors - including the person's drive and capability. Both the worker and the student can do worse, but they can also do better. I've spitballed this with google, but gone with fairly reliable sources like Fair Work, ATO websites, and some recruitment websites discussing graduate salaries etc. I've made a couple of assumptions, and erred on the conservative side when it came to indexation. Uni Graduate Assumes a four year full time degree with no supplemental employment, working on the average degree cost per year from Canstar Blue. I'm aware that I haven't factored in any centrelink payments as the whole thing gets messy offering up options for whether the student lives with parents or away from home, whether their parents earn too much money ($60k is the lower level for income reduction) so obviously the 'rolling earnings' is the worst possible figure possible. I used real indexation rates for the last 4 years, but the average of 4% per year wasn't historically accurate so I estimated a 2% ongoing indexation. Earnings for graduates varied according to Talent.com, but seemed to indicate a 10% growth per year with experience and promotion. Retail worker Assumes an 18 year old fresh out of high school with no prior employment experience - entry rate as a Junior Retail Assistant level 1, increasing with age to 21, and increasing retail level to maximum pay rate at level 8. I topped them out at the max retail pay rate and assumed they stayed in that job from that point. Naturally the award wage would increase with enterprise bargaining but there's already too many assumptions so i've left it as is. TL:DR Average four year uni degree can cost $131k before indexation In the same four years your retail worker has earned $183k Graduate starting salaries mean HECS\HELP repayments begin immediately upon entering the workforce It takes 13 years out of high school before the Uni Graduate has cumulatively earned more than the retail worker At that time, the graduate has paid $52k in repayments, but has only paid off $30k of the principal, due to indexation. There's still 80% of their HECS\HELP debt remaining - which could take 10 or more years to pay off You could absolutely do better than this. But you could also do far worse. Everyone's mileage may vary and end of the day the figures below don't mean shit in the real world - just a fun little spreadsheet exercise to get the mind moving on a monday morning.

To be fair, they were still closed 'without notice' which is the issue people have - not getting a chance to ride one last time, etc etc. The park knew they were going to remove it and instead of announcing it and giving people the opportunity to 'say goodbye', to give fans of the attraction a little 'send off'... They Kingda Ka'd it.

Yeah there's conflicting reports coming from various sources about how far off Rivertown actually is, but all the official messaging of the park has remained targeted on a December holidays opening. Just have to see what comes out - they've got a lot of work to do, but all the bones appear to be in place. Fleshing things out can be done a lot quicker if everything else is in place.

I was in Airlie not long ago - it definitely could use that sort of attraction.

por que no los dos?

Movie World is getting absolutely review bombed today by a bunch of German visitors - did I miss an invasion or something? I feel like they could have managed their expectations better if they'd done a little research beforehand.

Wanna know what they could have done better? Utilising the original pathway for that ride plot by opening up chinatown alley again, thereby having the Oz entrance right off mainstreet with a beautiful 'yellow brick road' themed path all the way back before the big reveal of the Emerald city IN FRONT of you (instead of behind as you enter). By the looks of the latest vloggers posts like Jaggs, they're opening up the path from scooby and themeing it green, it wouldn't have taken much extra effort and the rainbow entrance could have been off main street instead of next to Superman's brake run....

Yeah Village hasn't offered discounts of any substance in some time, other than in conjunction with ExperienceOZ promotions and the like (and even then theres a catch), but they do have a habit of 'throwing in extras' like a photo pass or loading it up with a bunch of "value" in the form of upcharges - discounts on an animal adventure, seats at outback spectacular or free membership (lol) at TopGolf. "Packed with over $500 of extra value" is the headline, but when you do the math, it'd cost you an extra $3000 to get the full value of. It's great if you're planning a big once in a long time family trip and doing everything, but not really of any use to the locals that have been there, done that.

I think LSM\LIM needs to come a bit further - I'm not sure the hydraulic track is long enough to accommodate the conversion, and there's no way they can fit a swing launch spike in there...

for MDMC? possibly. they did have it down for maintenance during construction so it could just be usual \ general maintenance. could have both trains getting rebuilt so they're at full capacity when JR opens. Although not part of the land its the nearest thing outside of it and will likely see larger queues from the extra foot traffic in that area....

They overhauled Wipeout and shut it a year later. Corkscrew got Sea Vipered in 2010 and shut down in 2014. Of course, not planned retirement - but older rides can have more issues that are too costly to rectify. Don't you mean Kingda bummed?

Yeah i think the issue staff face is that the bridge on main street (your first picture) leads guests onto that path, but they are then met with the entry to green lantern, justice league and batwing, there is no sign clearly visible from, say - green lantern's entry - that says 'DC Rivals is down here!' as the second sign in your reply is off to the side and angled, routinely blocked by guests or foliage. Having the logo dead centre and 12 feet high should help with the sightlines. (Ironically, in your first photo you can't see the bright (*traffic purple) structure, and further at green lantern you can't see it either because of the tree canopy either. Also, just because you can see the ride, doesn't mean you can find the entry for it - Lethal had that problem a lot - especially before Superman opened.

"Movie theme parks" get away with that though. You're walking through film sets which only matters what the camera can see. Guests are walking "behind the scenes" I didn't think Biscuit was still working for funfields? maybe this is an old render?

Looks like a train transport track - load the coaster train onto this sled and then transport it to where you need it. Usually they're smaller single car sleds, but i think some coaster cars need to be connected to one another if each car only has a single bogey set...

Like roadrunner and wild west before it, another 3d sign gone 2d. Also - what happened to the door? I'll admit this artwork looks a lot better, and the ride has always been missing a hero sign out front. I'd love to say the ride logo in the middle will prevent guests asking staff where to go to ride it, but it won't....

Look, puffery aside, the use of fake plants isn't a negative and that wasn't the intention of me including it as an option in my post. There are both a time and a place where it's the right choice for the install. Nobody wants real ivy crawling all over the wooden rollercoaster, potentially degrading the timber, making it harder to inspect, and also potentially false triggering safety sensors causing shutdowns. There's plenty of real plants in use within Atlantis (and they also weren't all mature and grown in on opening day either).

The words were mine, not @Michelangelo's - and there's more to the post I can only comment on what i've seen - which has mostly been the corn. if there's also real plants then bully for them - I was describing different methods, it wasn't a slight against Village's chosen theme. Nobody would have expected them to grow real corn all year round...

One would think given the many claims of puffery made by both parks over the years that you'd be managing your expectations a bit better. Given the qualifier 'built by dreamworld ever' the bar isn't set as high as you think. I do hope they do more, but i'm not expecting lush tropical jungle on day one.

Those were fake? I thought they were just pot plants.

I didn't forget it, I was ignoring it as an option for the budget conscious. There's been lots of discussion lately about the park doing things to minimise additional \ unnecessary expenses. So I didn't really consider that mature plants would be an option as they tend to cost a lot more to purchase, transport and install.

I understand the sentiment, but the choices you have are: Plant and wait for it to 'grow in' while opening the ride as soon as it is ready (the apparent JR method) Plant and wait for it to 'grow in' and don't open the ride until the true jungle feel is ready (your preferred method but probably a bit of a poor expectation) landscape with fake plants to achieve the desired look on day one (the WOZ method) And before anyone gets uppity about my comments towards WOZ - the movie was all done on soundstages with fake everything. the "fake" landscaping in WOZ's case is preferred because that is true to the film and is a legit option for this style of theme. JR could have gone down that route, but most of the concept and promo material we've been shown has been live, deep planting, so that's what i'm expecting.

There's 6 weeks to christmas. we know the ride has completed full circuits, and they're landscaping. i don't see any hint of vintage car tracking yet, but its looking a heck of a lot closer. 6 weeks is probably going to be enough time to be ready I reckon - as long as the weather continues to hold. Sure, the landscaping isn't going to be 'grown in' and it will take a while for the real 'jungle feel' to truly grow around everything - but that's pretty typical for opening day landscaping. I think Oz still looks better, from what we've seen so far, but JR is closing the gap here.

So they've just rolled it back ("will return in 2024") so the copy we saw was probably the intended release, but probably hadn't been approved for publishing yet.

And that's the whole point of the pricing structure. Disney does the exact same thing - the more days you visit, the cheaper it gets - because you're more likely to spend money in park that makes up the difference. They want people to come to their property for a week, not a day.