DaptoFunlandGuy

You're right, you never said same, you said similar. the implication was pretty clear, whether you intended it or not, and my reply was simply countering that implication. Just on this - the TRRR incident at Dreamworld involved a raft stuck at the TOP of the conveyor... so.... ❌ It seems it's you who can't understand the english language. You've defined Scary, and Similar as two different terms when in your case you used them as a single phrase - Scarily Similar. As you've defined them - Yes. The incident would have been scary for those on board. No. The incident would not have been eerie for those on board. Yes the two rides appear similar. However - to state 'scarily similar' implies that two or more things possess an uncanny, alarming, or unnerving level of likeness, often to the point of being unsettling or spooky. That doesn't make out here. Rafts didn't flip they were swamped. conveyor belts were not the cause of the incident. pumps didn't fail. nobody died. ❌❌❌❌ Survey says no. You've written emotively. whether it was your intention or not you've suggested things that aren't there. I think everyone has done a decent job of calling you on it and it's time to read the room and maybe admit you could have worded it better (if you didn't intend it) or you were wrong (if that was your intention). We don't need to spend the next three pages of this thread on pedantry. But I'm quite prepared to keep calling you out if you need it. You first.

Scarily? Please. Let's not be too dramatic. The difference here is the conveyor is an actual belt rather than slats. You can also see the belt stops moving right at the end of the video extremely quickly. Rafts are supposed to stop at the bottom of the conveyor. Something has occurred here that shouldn't have that has lead to the raft in front being swamped, but you can see in the evac that that raft is inclined and on the belt, so my guess is the evaced raft was lifted out after it was empty leaving the swamped one behind. It's not ideal. but the comments on the original video are more concerned about the guy wearing timberlands than any serious safety concern. The only people hyping this up are people referencing dreamworld and we've already done to death why dreamworld's installation is nothing like the intamin installs overseas.

The law allows them to open at 1:30pm and i'm supportive of entertainment facilities being allowed to open after the formal services for the day are completed. The solemnity of the day is usually done once the march is completed and the remainder of the RSL day is spent playing two-up and sinking piss - so i'm ok with a park opening if they see value in it. It could be the fact that the date occurs on a weekend attracting a double-whammy penalty rate that makes it unviable to open..?

I think the point was more about the fact that the ride closed at the start of february, and we've seen virtually no movement for 2.5 months, with some theorising that maybe they were waiting until after the easter holidays. Now, all of a sudden in the middle of school holidays, they suddenly start pulling things off the ride. That is what is curious about the timing, not that they're doing it in view of guests during operating hours.

Well, they're not waiting until school holidays have finished, that's for sure. None of the prep-work here so far points to removal or demolition. this could just as easily point to preparation for painting \ new trains. All still speculative at this stage.

As far as I'm concerned, they missed their opportunity when they didn't secure land near the WSI site. it was an opportunity to build something on a massive amount of vacant land that would be easily accessible to local and international visitors. Given WSI is due to open this year, they've well and truly missed the boat and any land bargains will have well and truly skyrocketed in price.

Businessman wants people to invest in Australia, keeps his liquidity offshore. Seems legit.

This gets trotted out a lot. The big issue with this argument is that water consumption and emissions are no different to any other data centre. Parkz is hosted in a data centre. So is google. Home assistants like Alexa and Google Assistant also rely on data centres to process requests in the back end. There's also this thing called streaming which is far more prolific than AI use. The "AI uses up water" argument is pushed by those who don't understand how data centres work. Moreover - a lot of folk seem to have forgotten about 'The Water Cycle' which is a 5th Grader concept. They're using water to cool down servers. Water evaporates and forms clouds. Clouds bring rain. Rain fills up water catchments used for drinking. Have done for literally millions of years. AI has actually shone a spotlight on the water use of our growing data centres which has prompted some larger providers to investigate closed loop water systems, though this would just increase costs for everyone. So if you're objectionable to AI because of water usage - better turn off netflix and put down the smartphone too. Enjoy listening to the wireless like your great grandparents did. I literally just got done calling out how everyone is an expert at AI and is calling out real videos as fakes because so many people are jumping on real work and accusing it of being AI - I don't think the pendulum is going to swing quite that far. I appreciate you declaring your bias early. I'm not a fan of large corporates utilising it in place of creatives, but I work for a large organisation that is using AI everyday to assist with more mundane and repetitive workloads and can really see the value in productivity and efficiency. Like it or not, it's here to stay. As for paying someone for a decent looking result - there's a market here that would not pay for it - community groups and volunteer associations use it to promote their events and fundraise. They'd never have the budget for a professional, but with the help of AI they are producing far more effective products to promote and campaign. Just because people are using it to generate images, doesn't mean that the real work isn't already happening (i've literally already mentioned this about my employer). I mean, I've seen the CEO running burgers to tables. If I didn't know better i'd say they were struggling to pay their staff. Of course, I know better, and I know that isn't the case. But it's a bit rich to assume that the marketing team is being deliberately under-funded because AI has taken someones job. Way to ignore the skilled aircraft engineer there. So is that your way of saying you'll donate your skills and expertise to Dreamworld's marketing team for free? For the record you've used 'soulless' 3 times in this post.

I think it's important to be explicit on exactly what we're talking about here. Saying a wooden rollercoaster is getting 're-tracked' implies that the entire course is being replaced. This is a rare event and certainly not one that would happen so soon after opening unless the ride had some devastating construction flaw. Spotting pallets of timber stacked up next to the ride - entirely normal. The park employs a carpenter (or at least, they advertised a full time role specifically to maintain the coaster prior to opening), and the ride is constantly having pieces replaced. The entire ride is walked regularly (if not daily) and loose, damaged, rotting or worn timbers are replaced as they are found. I can't speak for Leviathan but I know on older woodies it's not unusual during the morning track walk to hear hammering as the chippy puts more nails into a board to re-secure it prior to the start of operations.

Yes of course - if Easter long weekend is your only option, then you go, but you go expecting that pain. If you've got the entire week - maybe go do something else on the long weekend and come back tuesday. I see this as a good thing.

Easter weekend is their second busiest time of the year, but concentrated into a shorter timespan than the summer holidays. This isn't a new thing either - Wonderland had the same massive easter crowds 25-30 years ago - even with the Sydney Royal happening. Honestly if the carpark is at capacity on these peak days and not any other, I don't think there's a problem. Not being able to find a park is probably a good sign you should go elsewhere.

I am part of a community for a game series played by a bunch of friends on certain streaming platforms. JetLag for those who know it. Their latest season announced a poster and trailer for the next game and people immediately jumped on it as being AI generated, calling out all sorts of hallmarks that they claimed proved it was AI. (And this is despite much of the community knowing already the creators' positions on the use of AI and this being totally out of character for them). And they were wrong. The game creators debunked it publicly within hours with proof of design iterations and variants that were discarded during development. Everyone is an expert on what is AI these days. (No, they really aren't) As for designers being made obsolete - eh - if a computer can do the job, do we need them? (See also - Supermarket Checkout operators, numerous manufacturing roles across multiple industries, Aircraft engineers (third seat) and so on...)

It wasn't a poor decision at all. it was a risk for BBC. they gambled, and it also incentivised them to push the product harder than they might have if they weren't going to benefit from it. George Lucas famously cut his fee with 20th Century in exchange for merchandise rights. This wasn't his cunning plan to make a ton of money - this was his compromise to have the film produced. The studio was trying to keep costs down (the original budget blew out due to cost overruns onsite in Tunisia). The studio didn't see the value in the merch but were happy to save money on his director's fee reducing the costs of production. It could have flopped. 20th Century could have spent $11m on production and roughly $25m on distribution costs only to have it flop at the box office. That's the gamble. Instead Star Wars grossed over $775m, and Lucas' merchandise rights have generated over $40 BILLION - But it could have just as easily gone the other way. And that's the same risk for BBC.

Matilda came out 30 years ago this year. That doesn't make it relevant enough to base a show around. Shows aren't just here for a year either. Hollywood Stunt Driver 2 ran from 2014 to 2025 - 11 years Hollywood Stunt Driver ran from 2008 to 2014 - 6 years Police Academy Stunt Show ran from 1991 to 2008 - 17 years No. Austin is not a viable IP to anchor your parks main show. No. Austin is not a viable IP to anchor your parks main show. No. Austin is not a viable IP to anchor your parks main show. No. Austin is not a viable IP to anchor your parks main show. No. Austin is not a viable IP to anchor your parks main show. No. Austin is not a viable IP to anchor your parks main show.

I mean, I don't wanna shit on their social \ marketing team because they often do a really good job - but I do find a lot of 'little things' that should have been picked up prior to publishing that just... aren't. And here's another great example: "Start strong - hit Steel Taipan, The Giant Drop and Motocoaster first to beat the later queues." Like come on guys - ChatGPT can write it for you (em-dash i'm looking at you) but you still have to proof-read it!

They... They meant to write King Claw, right?

No, nothing wrong with older IP - but it has to be relatable. And tying a major park attraction to the IP means it needs sufficient recognition for it to pull a crowd. WoZ was relevant because of all the recent attention it has garnered from Wicked. Austin is nowhere near the same. Having a character walk around in the 'classics' era alongside Marilyn and such is fine. Anchoring your main 'show' isn't.

Scooby is not the yardstick for this sort of work. it closed earlier than planned, and it sat for long periods awaiting the buildslot. We have no idea whether the project experienced any other delays but those alone aren't normal for this type of work. We have no idea as to the scope of work either - if it's just new trains, then there's very little to do to the ride and much of the work is theming. Can someone help me measure some string?

Now hold on there.... Last year Dreamworld made a big thing of being the only theme park on the coast opening a new ride with King Claw - implying that the return of Scooby Doo after a refurb didn't count. I don't disagree with that assessment \ marketing angle - but what's good for the goose - the park doesn't get to advertise it as a 'newest thing' if its just a refurb or retheme.

Yep absolutely looks like a re-theme of the station building to suit rivertown. Given nobody has picked up any hint of either demolition or sale of the ride, I think it's safe to say they're considering a retheme for MC (which, to be fair, was something Greg had indicated previously). Hopefully they ditch the current prototype harness system for something more like Jet Rescue otherwise the same ride inefficiencies will remain.

What makes you think this isn't what they are doing? Just because they're not doing it your way or to your timeline, doesn't make it wrong.

Bang on - they're reducing their margins on products to encourage increased passholder spend. They're literally trying to increase the per-cap spend by offering incentives to do so. Nobody is discounting tickets to get people in. Stop with the fucking strawman arguments. Offering perks to passholders to encourage extra spend is a new thing in Aus as our passes have previously been "you get entry, and maybe some night events" and that's it. Nobody wanted to pay extra for premium perks when passes were $99. Now prices are going up, people are looking for 'what's in it for me at the higher price' and rewarding folk with "discounts" that ultimately get them to spend more money than they otherwise would have is just smart business. It's why Village have for years offered a bunch of "extra value" when you buy a pass that ultimately ended up being "$30 off dolphin swim" and "adults at kids prices at outback spectacular". This isn't their front page offer which is $149, and renewal offers on the website also require a code \ be renewed within a set time period. The fact that your email offer which also has a unique barcode proves its targeted marketing not broad brush discounting - it's a Customer retention strategy because they already have your contact information to send targeted marketing. They're aiming to retain customers because everyone knows it's cheaper to keep an existing customer than to get a new one. (Which by the way was the same thing Village did when they offered $149 passes as that wasn't a widespread campaign either) As an aside - Disneyland's magic key offers the following benefits to passholders which are simply discounts off full price products and services: Discounts on disney parking lots (highest tier is free) Discounts on dining (highest tier gets higher discount) Discounts on merchandise (highest tier gets highest discount) Discounts on lightning lane These discounts encourage the passholder to spend money on these services that, if a regular visitor, they might otherwise avoid. But Dreamworld = bad according to Skeet.

yeah I don't think it's fair to start 'pooh-poohing' Village just because a ride (let's face it, it's a new ride) goes down for 48 hours in its first few months of operation. Most new rides go down after their first peak period for a full check over to ensure everything is wearing in as it should be. Or they could have decided to change out running wheels to a different material and decided to close it for a day to get it all done and tested instead of doing it piecemeal. Literally anything could have closed it for two days. I haven't been 'Team Village' for a while now but let's leave the pitchforks alone a little longer?