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6 hours ago, pin142 said:

A queue wait time that rivals any other ride in Australia. Wonder how much they made from the "pay to win" queue jump option today.

Longest that I've ever waited for a ride here was Tower (peak summer holidays many years ago) and that was only about 2 and a half hours if I recall. I don't recall having to wait 4 hours for any of the attractions I rode at Universal Studios Japan, so why is this the same at MW which attracts only a fraction of the guests that Universal does, because of a mistake that can so easily be avoided.

1 train on a public holiday weekend is laughable, let alone during a school holiday period. What's gone on? Is the other train being done up or is it just sitting in the shed idle? Is there not enough staff to be running two trains? If it's being worked on, why wasn't the work timed with the two odd months the park has put Rivals under maintenance for in preparation for the June school holidays?

For a park (and chain more broadly) that labels every addition under the sun as "world class" how they run the park day-to-day is as far from that as possible.

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Unless you're on a very limited time holiday in a foreign country, there's absolutely no reason anyone should ever wait 4 hours in line for a ride. Movie World is taking the piss with these kind of operations and sadly it seems like the general public are all too happy to drink it up without a care in the world. Something needs to change otherwise Movie World is just going to keep on delivering the bare minimum and reaping the profits.

On 14/04/2022 at 10:06 PM, rappa said:

Well if I went to the park for the first time last year and then today I would feel superman was enhanced. 
 

Perhaps the marketing was targeted at that people and not those with a compulsion to be pedantic and needlessly post waffling definitions in a theme park forum 🤷‍♂️ 

Hey i'm just calling it like it is. Your bias is showing.

Not really possibly to show bias on a hypothetical situation that's not one I can be in given I rode the thing opening year.

But as I said pretty clearly IF I HAD only ridden it last year which is entirely feasible for a good number of people, or hell 5 years ago even, and I knew nothing about some long gone effect, of course I would think it was enhanced, how could I not?

 

But I won't let a sensible argument get in the way of your compulsive need to be right about something that matters so little.

Call me bias, call me whatever the on earth you like, won't change the fact I'm just happy to see something being done to make improvements to what is currently there, just as I will be happy if there are improvements to Giant Drop at dreamworld. If it said "come ride the all new Superman" then I'd be all giving a shit, but 'enhanced' I have bigger things to be outraged about in life. 

14 hours ago, rappa said:

"come ride the all new Superman"

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NEW RIDE ENHANCEMENTS

14 hours ago, rappa said:

I would think it was enhanced

But the park shouldn't think it is enhanced, if all they've done is restored it. My initial response to this post was simply to hope that they had 'plussed' the ride with something extra - as a person who has ridden Superman before would consider 'enhance' to be better than what they've seen previously.

Marketing is not about telling people what you think. Its about telling them what they can experience. 
 

This is CLEARLY saying to people to come see the new thing to them. 
You’re not a stupid person, you definitely can see this/know it’s the case. Stop making a silly argument just to make some nonsensical angry point. 

9 hours ago, rappa said:

This is CLEARLY saying to people to come see the new thing to them. 

As you so rightly pointed out (pretty clearly), it works for people who went to the park for the first time last year.

On 19/04/2022 at 7:36 PM, rappa said:

But as I said pretty clearly IF I HAD only ridden it last year which is entirely feasible for a good number of people, or hell 5 years ago even, and I knew nothing about some long gone effect, of course I would think it was enhanced,

But for a ride that has been open for going on 17 years - there's going to be a lot more people out there that have experienced it when things were working, making this marketing a flat out disappointment. 

You're right about one other thing - this IS a silly argument... just not for the reasons you think it is.

If they had put scooby back exactly as it was after the year or so it operated without the interior ghost train walls and theming - recreated every wall and effect in exact detail - even putting the original green lasers and mirrors back in as they were on opening, and then said 'come see the new scooby' and all people saw was what was there before it was gutted - there would be an uproar. 

Why is this different? because it fell to shit slowly rather than get gutted all at once?

Marketing is about blowing enough smoke up someones ass to convince them to come see the thing, I know this, but an enhancement it is not. If your target market is the guy who came for the first time a year ago, and in doing so you're happy to disappoint your lifelong fans - then your marketing team needs to be fired.

 

22 minutes ago, Gazza said:

Forgive me for missing if it has been written, but has anyone been on Superman since the upgrade and seen it for themselves?

No, I don't think it has (been written) - however when you read the following in sequence:

On 13/04/2022 at 11:59 AM, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

I do hope they have actually enhanced it, and aren't calling a return (or substitution) of opening day effects an 'enhancement'.

It is wonderful to see the fog\mist\smoke effect return and I hope the water and steam is back - look forward to hearing of what enhancements they've made!

 

On 14/04/2022 at 9:08 AM, rappa said:

I dunno, I’m all about money being spent to bring these things back to their glory. 
It may not be something to brag about but that is kinda marketing’s job. 

(plus all the replies after this) sort of supported the likelihood that I was on the money about restoration vs enhancement...

If it has in-fact been enhanced with additional effects beyond the restoration or substitution of what was there opening day (like I said at the beginning), then that's wonderful news and I look forward to seeing them. 

1 hour ago, Gazza said:

Forgive me for missing if it has been written, but has anyone been on Superman since the upgrade and seen it for themselves?

Yep. Since our visit in 2019 the flood effect is working and the tunnel smoke. Other than that everything else is as I can remember.

Of course if it isnt ‘Enhanced from opening day’ then of course its not great news. 
It’s in fact horrible, and the park team shouldn't spend time and money wasting effort on getting attractions looking their best because there will always be some some expert on the internet who won’t be happy. 
 

And how dare marketing say a word about it!

Honestly some days 🙄 

For me it's like yes its great that things are put in working order, but if its tenuous if you're so hard up for marketing stories that something not being broken is is a talking point.

Not being broken for 2 months is one thing. 
Decommissioned a decade ago and now replicated with a brand new entirely different tech effect IS worth mentioning.
 

Especially with a bunch of people complaining they dont care about maintaining the park.  

5 minutes ago, rappa said:

IS worth mentioning.

It's worth mentioning. absolutely.

Superman Escape has re-opened and has never looked better!

Whether your first visit was last year or in January 2006 - this is a truthful statement, and also tells former riders that it all looks great without implying that there are new things they haven't seen before.

 

Also - even if its an 'entirely different tech effect' - if it looks the same (or similar enough to what they remember), the average punter isn't going to know the difference, so it's still just a restoration of a previous effect. 'oh look, the steam is back!'

Remember - GP still think Vortex came from Dreamworld and used to be called 'The Wipeout'.

 

You do realise it's a single Facebook post, not the core marketing message for the brand as a whole?

 

Also who is to say it isn't an enhancement? Maybe they've enhanced the computer so it'll be more reliable or they've added something else that will make the ride safer. Maybe the fog effect they've installed is superior to the old steam effect as it doesn't spray a load of cooled pipe water from the day before on guests first thing in the morning.

59 minutes ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

the average punter isn't going to know the difference

100% this

Much like the punter (thats never seen the damn old steam effect) doesnt get into semantics about whether this new thing is an enhancement or not. 
 

ITS A MARKETING PUFF PIECE

FWIW my whites HAVE been whiter before, the latest home hack I read didn’t change my life, or ant other puff pieces. 

Doomsday is under maintenance, has been our entire visit. Wild West open with signposted 115m wait. When we lined up at the queue was just near the end of the entrance door.

Overall the park seems much quieter today, still long waits for rides but definitely less crowded.

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Surprisingly, doomsday did open on the day it was suppose too, but i’ve I heard batwing has been having issues this morning, so Doomsday, Superman and Scooby are the only reliable rides atm (excluding kids wb area, which 2 rides are down anyways)

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