The Decline Of Movie World

[Levithian]

The QSC name plates on the speakers? I was googling while waiting in line to find out how much they cost. Be awesome having some all weather ones on the back deck blasting music out into the yard for when you're working in the garden. 

[rappa]

Ok that makes more sense. Obviously they are just QSC speakers, doesn’t have to be run from QSys. 
Even though in this case VRTP does in fact deploy QSys systems at all properties. 

[Slick]

4 hours ago, rappa said:

Ok that makes more sense. Obviously they are just QSC speakers, doesn’t have to be run from QSys. 
Even though in this case VRTP does in fact deploy QSys systems at all properties. 

Is it better or worse than Nightlife?

[Rivals]

After spending the whole day at the park here are some things i noticed the park does well and what they do bad.

 

good:

- wide variety of food options with current outlets and new temporary outlets such as boost juice and donutime (even if they looked very out of place)

- good guest interaction from charecters

- wild wests boats and road runners trains are an improvement and it was nice seeing something to do with these ride getting some love

- Batman exhibit is a cool and interesting experience, however one of the weaker ones out of the showcases. 

- Green Lantern was getting trains out faster then normal and the chain was completely stopping when there wasn’t a train on the lift, made it a lot more quiet. 

 

However, that’s all that really stood out in terms of the good things the park were doing. 

 

bad:

- the operations were horrendous (excluding green lantern, scooby doo.) Batwing around 3-4mins, Rivals 5-7mins. WWF was ranging from 1-4mins. 

- very noticeable roughness on Rivals with the backs of the seats being somewhat exposed from the front which didn’t look great (could possibly always be there but this was the first time i noticed.)

- 50-60% of the effects not working on JL, Scooby and WWF and barely any to none working in the villains unleashed area

- areas such as the Kids area need new audio as it is nearly dead silent besides the noise of the rides and people (also an update is definitely needed.) 

- food was highly priced for bad quality

- a lot of the park was pretty dirty and needed some TLC. 

- the Scoob 4D experience was not much better then yogi bear, with them just snipping scenes out of the movie, putting them together and creating a story that doesent make a lot of sense at all.

- Arkham and it’s old tower facade are a bad eye sore and need to be replaced urgently, especially when 3 of the major rides were closed most of the day (scooby opening around 1.)

- staff being miserable and rude, obviously not wanting to be there with some making comments about how sucky the job is to customers.

 

overall it is obvious that the park is in decline, with it now being the third best on the coast (Dreamworld 1st, Sea World 2nd.) will make another visit in the coming weeks to see if there is any improvements. Hope this helps for anyone wanting to plan a trip or not being able to visit and wanting to know more info on what’s going on within the park.

Edited April 2, 2022 by Rivals

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

On 02/04/2022 at 5:18 PM, Rivals said:

- staff being miserable and rude, obviously not wanting to be there with some making comments about how sucky the job is to customers.

This is the one big disappointment to hear as the staff can really make a mediocre park a great experience.

I am assuming your comment is relating to ride operators as they're the one role that most park-goers will definitely interact with - I can say not all ride operators are like this, but its a shame that those that do exhibit this sort of behaviour in front of guests are permitted to continue in the role.

[Rivals]

37 minutes ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

I am assuming your comment is relating to ride operators as they're the one role that most park-goers will definitely interact with - I can say not all ride operators are like this, but its a shame that those that do exhibit this sort of behaviour in front of guests are permitted to continue in the role.

sorry i didn’t specify but yes i meant the ride operators, the rest of the staff were in an overall better mood.

 

The operators were specifically bad at Scooby and JL, with Scooby sending out around 6 empty cars (could have been some sort of issue they possibly had to send out empty cars? who knows though), while the grouper and operator on the other side were just talking about personal subjects , with the JL one just acting miserable 

[nomdeplume]

Understand that the business is in survival mode. Things are improving (compared to being closed) but there is a long way to go.

Financially, the business is/was in very dire straits...it was on the precipice in 2020. They're trying to rebuild it from the ashes but that will take time and some of the cosmetic issues described here are taking a back seat while that happens.

[Rivals]

5 hours ago, nomdeplume said:

Understand that the business is in survival mode. Things are improving (compared to being closed) but there is a long way to go.

Financially, the business is/was in very dire straits...it was on the precipice in 2020. They're trying to rebuild it from the ashes but that will take time and some of the cosmetic issues described here are taking a back seat while that happens.

if they were in a bad financial situation, they wouldn’t have been able to refurbish both road runner and WWF at the same time, build WNW’s new slide complex, introduce the new animal experiences to paradise country, refurbish Surfrider (even if it still isn’t open yet) or introduce new events such as Hooray for Hollywood. This also doesn't make sense as their other properties aren’t being run nearly as bad as MW. 

 

When dreamworld was declining, they copped a lot more and they weren’t cut any slack or had excuses made for them, so why isn’t it the same now they’ve swapped places?

Edited April 5, 2022 by Rivals

[joz]

53 minutes ago, Rivals said:

When dreamworld was declining, they copped a lot more and they weren’t cut any slack or had excuses made for them, so why isn’t it the same now they’ve swapped places?

Is this the reason nearly every post from you in the past whole lot of months has been slinging shit at MW? Butt hurt that people didn't make excuses for DW?

 

FWIW the answer is DW was entirely self inflicted. MW is partially self inflicted, but not not even close to totally. Also as you've alluded to, they HAVE been spending money on stuff to keep the place running better while having a lot of cosmetic issues.

 

Edit to say: FWIW I had a look at the DW maintenance thread. There was a notable lack of people who are very active in this thread losing their minds that DWs entire thrill ride collection was Claw, Gold Coaster and Pandamonium, so it certainly comes across to me that the commentary some members make is biased.

[TomiJ]

53 minutes ago, joz said:

FWIW the answer is DW was entirely self inflicted

That is all that needs to be said. 

[Guest 239]

55 minutes ago, joz said:

There was a notable lack of people who are very active in this thread losing their minds that DWs entire thrill ride collection was Claw, Gold Coaster and Pandamonium, so it certainly comes across to me that the commentary some members make is biased.

There have been literal wars waged with countless lives lost through the centuries because two groups disagree on what invisible super power told by some bloke in a really old book is the best.

I don't get how people can be continually gobsmacked by bias affecting this forum's discourse when the focus is on the Gold Coast where there are literally two operators to choose from.

Maybe three if you include King Tut's Putt Putt. 

 

[joz]

It just gets a bit tedious ya know? 'This is why things are a bit crap at MW right now' 'Grrr where was this sensible explanation with DW?'. Like far out things happen on their own, not just in the context of MW v DW.

 

Both operators have pros and cons. Some pros are bigger than others and some cons are bigger than others. Everyone's shit stinks, that's the way it's always been and the way it always will be.

[Rivals]

1 hour ago, joz said:

Is this the reason nearly every post from you in the past whole lot of months has been slinging shit at MW? Butt hurt that people didn't make excuses for DW?

people are allowed opinions and i had some pretty strong ones when dreamworld was declining too so try again.

yeah they’ve made some improvements, but what’s the point of making improvements on certain rides (RR, WWF) while neglecting other rides (JL, Scooby) instead of just maintaining all the rides (wouldn’t even say WWF was much of an improvement since the operations are significantly slower and practically no effects are working). if they can maintain and run every other park smoothly, what’s so different with movie world that they can’t run it smoothly?

[aussienetman]

What I see as someone not associated with the parks at all is a park doing its best to rebuild after horrendous neglect resulting in the death of guests .... And a park in cruise control with dilapidated surroundings with no love or care for the guest experience. It's my opinion and I know I'll hear shouts of 'dw fanboy'.. but as a complete outsider with no ties to either venues all I can say  - dreamworld deserves the praise it's been getting and Movieworld needs to stop taking its guests for granted. Dreamworld is screaming at me 'look we are putting in the effort'. Movieworlds just like 'hey we didn't kill anyone - come on in ya suckers' 

IMO

 

 

Edited April 5, 2022 by aussienetman

[Naazon]

Justice League is 10 years this coming September. I don't know enough about lifespans of rides and referbs but I feel tech has made leaps and bounds in the last 10 years and this ride could benefit. Or knock down and put something decent in. The JL ride is the wrong ride for that "thrill" area of the park.

[Rivals]

12 minutes ago, Naazon said:

Justice League is 10 years this coming September. I don't know enough about lifespans of rides and referbs but I feel tech has made leaps and bounds in the last 10 years and this ride could benefit. Or knock down and put something decent in. The JL ride is the wrong ride for that "thrill" area of the park.

A ride similar to the six flags Justice Leagues would’ve worked so well in the Supervillains Unleashed Area. Have the entrance be where the exit is for the showcase, have the ride take place all in there with a connecting storyline to the area and exit out the wild west side or have 2 exits with one going back into the area and replace justice league with something else (maybe a more intense version of the  Movie Park Studios Coater as it’s in the “thrill area” of the park.)

 

But as it stands, it is obvious the park cares more about money and visitor numbers, then the actual guest experience. Just look at the food quality, run down attractions, the roxy theatre movies. This park has so much potential and it’s sad seeing it go to wast.

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

8 hours ago, Rivals said:

if they can maintain and run every other park smoothly, what’s so different with movie world that they can’t run it smoothly?

That's just it though, isn't it - they aren't maintaining and running any of them 'smoothly' - although I guess that depends on what your expectations are...

On almost every recent visit i've made to Sea World, Jet Rescue was down for maintenance, or down unscheduled. Storm was literally the only attraction at the park worth my time. Sea World has been death by a thousand cuts, and the fact that their new flagship has been delayed by almost 2 years with little word from the park hasn't helped them. Simultaneously taking things away like Waterpark, Monorail... 

WnW might have 'new shiny thing' but that's also been up and down like a yoyo since opening for certain issues, plus the white elephant zip lines, and rarely operated sky coaster, or the never opened and two year delayed surf rider.

Tell me again how Movie World is the only park in a shambles?

(Dreamworld also has had a shit run, I don't see a need to regurgitate it here when the focus is MW, but suffice to say, they're all doing pretty shit right now)

[Rivals]

1 hour ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

On almost every recent visit i've made to Sea World, Jet Rescue was down for maintenance, or down unscheduled. Storm was literally the only attraction at the park worth my time. Sea World has been death by a thousand cuts, and the fact that their new flagship has been delayed by almost 2 years with little word from the park hasn't helped them. Simultaneously taking things away like Waterpark, Monorail... 

honestly completely forgot about Leviathan and that whole mess as well as Wnw new slide complex’s issues so my bad movie world isn’t the only one in that company being run bad. So i take back my comment of “if they can maintain and run every park smoothly, what’s so different with movie world that they can’t run it smoothly.”

[joz]

We going to talk about Fully 6 or nah?

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

2 minutes ago, joz said:

We going to talk about Fully 6 or nah?

I mean I did say I didn't see the need to regurgitate DW, but I guess WWW has been on again off again so I kinda forget its there. Nevertheless my comments (below) should be construed as applying equally to WWW. 

2 hours ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

(Dreamworld also has had a shit run, I don't see a need to regurgitate it here when the focus is MW, but suffice to say, they're all doing pretty shit right now)

 

[joz]

Oh wasn't aimed at you that one @DaptoFunlandGuy 🙂

[Rivals]

8 minutes ago, joz said:

We going to talk about Fully 6 or nah?

what does fully 6 have to do with anything? 

[themagician]

Some of the slides haven't operated since the incident a couple years ago. Slides 2 and 3 are still closed (according to the website) and slide 1 was closed at one point too.

[joz]

If your test is 'new slides closed = can't run a park' then the one you're simping for doesn't do well.

[Guest 239]

11 hours ago, joz said:

It just gets a bit tedious ya know? 'This is why things are a bit crap at MW right now' 'Grrr where was this sensible explanation with DW?'. Like far out things happen on their own, not just in the context of MW v DW.

I get your frustration and it's valid considering that no place of discussion wants such a watered down conversational atmosphere. 

I feel there's always going to be some sort of friction when it comes to a shift in ideas thanks to opinion inertia. It's genuinely difficult to reflect on the positive progress of Movie World and see them start to falter, whilst on the other hand I can understand why people who reflect on Dreamworld being a dumpster fire for the past decade are confused as to why they're suddenly experiencing praise.

As you said, many of these things happen on their own and not just in the context of Movie World vs Dreamworld, but a lot of people don't see it as such and instead see an opportunity to point fingers, pass blame, and provide excuses. When I did my trip report about my Gold Coast trip in January I was conscious of not making any comparisons between the different properties, and instead just outlined my opinions and thoughts over the couple of days, but suddenly it became a Dreamworld VS Movie World thread surprisingly thanks to a community leader saying that Movie World's faults were the direct cause of Dreamworld's actions which left the conversation to the discuss the narrative instead of the content provided.

Honestly I believe the issue exists because it's an easy out for both sides of the argument to ignore the problems and issue presented and instead pass the buck or gaslight the other into believing that their opinion is wrong. This is a hard problem to fix, but it comes down to whether posters are more interested in having a discussion, or simply being right. 

Also despite addressing your apathy towards the Dreamworld Vs Movie World discussion, whilst I've written this you've made several attempts to continue it. Seriously, be the change you want to see or stop complaining about it. 

 

Edited April 6, 2022 by Dom