Fright Nights 2022

[Park Addict 93]

From The Bulletin yesterday, speaking of working with world class IP’s such as IT and The Conjuring.

Pretty sure the park capacity is a fair bit under 50000 however despite how busy FN can be…

Edited August 24, 2022 by Park Addict 93

[Rivals]

50,000 is the capacity with tickets being sold at $79-$99 with the highest being $499? goodluck to anyone going on a sold out night.

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

1 hour ago, Park Addict 93 said:

Pretty sure the park capacity is a fair bit under 50000

Yeah 50,000 sounds like the total number of people they expect across all nights.

[red dragin]

1 hour ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

Yeah 50,000 sounds like the total number of people they expect across all nights.

Stop applying logic and facts when people just want to apply their rage, haven't you learnt 😂 

[Rivals]

2 hours ago, Rivals said:

50,000 is the capacity with tickets being sold at $79-$99 with the highest being $499? goodluck to anyone going on a sold out night.

lmao i must’ve read it wrong forget what i said.

 

If it’s 50,000 across all the nights then that seems more reasonable, apologies for reading it wrong

[Tricoart]

DW you didn't read it wrong, they just wrote it wrong. The article's exact quote is:

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"And with more than 50,000 people expected to flood the park on any single night"

So yeah, no mistake of your own.

Edited August 24, 2022 by Tricoart

[MaxxTheMonster]

But at 50,000 over 9 nights you are looking at approx 5,500 a night...  There are easily more than that number of people on most days.

If that is the case then Fast Tracks are pretty pointless.

They put through between 12 and 20 people each maze group (round to 15 for maths), over 5 hours and a group being admitted every, lets say 60 seconds to be generous, you are looking at a throughput per maze of around 4500 people per night.  Remembering not everyone wants to do every maze, some don't do mazes at all.

So it is pretty close for people to be able to do all mazes within the night without having a Fast Pass...

Personally I have never seen the point in rides at FN as they can be done at any other attendance to the park, and certainly see no point paying to skip the queue on them.

Keep in mind the figures I have used are not exact but based on previous years.  They also send larger groups more frequently than I have used so the final throughput could be a fair bit higher (groups of 15 sent every 45 seconds would allow 6,000 people per maze per night)

Edited August 25, 2022 by MaxxTheMonster

[Gazza]

I think its more if you want to see more of the shows, have time to eat, or just not physically stand in a crowded line.
People may want to do rides since riding at night is a different experience.

And of course attendance is not uniform, some nights will be busier.

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

1 hour ago, MaxxTheMonster said:

But at 50,000 over 9 nights you are looking at 5,555 a night...  There are easily more than that number of people on most days.

If that is the case then Fast Tracks are pretty pointless.

I'd dispute "most days" but I do believe the park capacity is more than double the 5k figure - however, WB kids will effectively be closed, and West likely will be too. Additional floor space is also lost to maze queues and paths, precincts also occupy space, and the park is dark and poorly lit. So for a reduced footprint, and increased hazards (including the continued need to pay lip service to social distancing measures) and 5,500 sounds about right. 

Looking at the wiki, and it doesn't seem too far off when you compare to pre-covid numbers either:

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It is a consistently popular event, with around 7,000 guests attending each Fright Night evening in October 2017

 

[Meep Meep]

Do you think any shows will be added or roaming performers, like years gone by? Eg. Magician, freaks or sword swallowers

[JaggedJanine]

Usually the event is capped anywhere between 5500-8000. I know it has been 8000 during previous years.

I've previously worked across both MW and WnW and during the summer of 2015-2016 we had a day at WnW with over 16,000 and were still happy to let more in. They have said before that they don't have a cap for day trade and wouldn't stop a paying customer from going into the park. Unlike Raging Waters(when it was WnW Sydney) which used to stop letting customers in after they got to a certain capacity. Unsure if this is still the case.

[MaxxTheMonster]

2 hours ago, JaggedJanine said:

I've previously worked across both MW and WnW and during the summer of 2015-2016 we had a day at WnW with over 16,000 and were still happy to let more in. 

 

5 hours ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

I'd dispute "most days" but I do believe the park capacity is more than double the 5k figure

 

Working in Guest Services over Christmas period at one stage I know we had more than 14,000 in park.  I know that Boxing Day (even 20 years ago) was getting more than 10,000 in park.  Weekly attendance (outside holiday periods) fluctuated between 4,000 and 6,000.

5 hours ago, Gazza said:

I think its more if you want to see more of the shows, have time to eat, or just not physically stand in a crowded line.
People may want to do rides since riding at night is a different experience.

And of course attendance is not uniform, some nights will be busier.

Absolutely agree with you Gazza.  I have yet to see the mention of any live music or shows at this time however, which I really hope is present as I love standing around listening to / watching them.  They were incorporated into a precinct or two in previous years but so far nothing mentioned

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

17 hours ago, JaggedJanine said:

They have said before that they don't have a cap for day trade and wouldn't stop a paying customer from going into the park.

*Queensland Fire and Emergency Services has entered the chat*

14 hours ago, MaxxTheMonster said:

Working in Guest Services over Christmas period at one stage I know we had more than 14,000 in park.  I know that Boxing Day (even 20 years ago) was getting more than 10,000 in park.  Weekly attendance (outside holiday periods) fluctuated between 4,000 and 6,000.

That's hardly "easily more than...." 5500 people in park "...most days " in fact it sounds entirely average.

[MaxxTheMonster]

6 hours ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

That's hardly "easily more than...." 5500 people in park "...most days " in fact it sounds entirely average.

If you read the comment as a whole:

21 hours ago, MaxxTheMonster said:

 I know that Boxing Day (even 20 years ago) was getting more than 10,000 in park.  Weekly attendance (outside holiday periods) fluctuated between 4,000 and 6,000.

i.e. Weekly attendance 20 years ago was between 4,000 and 6,000.  I don't know the figures these days but given the parks are busier now than then, one could infer that means more people than that now?

Fluctuated is the past tense of fluctuates which is the current tense.  The more you know

[Spotty]

From my previous experience working at Movie World. Weekday attendance was approx 3000 a day, weekends 4000 - 5000.

School holidays were around 8000-12000. The park would close the gates at 16,000 which was the full capacity. General rule of thumb was if the park is expecting more than 10,000 they would add the 3rd HSD show (11am, 12:15 and 1:30pm) and for a crazy peak day they would add a 4th show at 4:15pm.

This was back around 2013, so not sure what the current park capacity is. But they have certainly shut the gates a few times in the past. I remember being stuck operating batwing till 7:15pm when the park closed at 5:30pm... most boring ride in the park to operate IMO

[Brendo88]

So one of the new mazes is the ' Death Row Maze'

 

https://frightnights.com.au/mazes/death-row

[Smol bean]

I like the idea of a maze themed to death row, hope they can do some good scares

Edited August 31, 2022 by Smol bean

[Rivals]

If i’m being honest, this maze line up looks like one of the strongest they’ve had in years. I hope they can execute them well. 

[New display name]

2 hours ago, Smol bean said:

I like the idea of a maze themed to death row, hope they can do some good scares

You will be lucky to walk out alive.

[Smol bean]

1 hour ago, New display name said:

You will be lucky to walk out alive.

I will be lucky to step foot in there

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

I'll give them a point for recycling the old Arkham Asylum costumes. 

Someone should see if the woman from the queue video with the bad american accent can reprise her role..

[aaronm]

I don't mind another original creation, will see how it turns out but sometimes it seems like too much budget goes into the licenses rather than the mazes.

[Rivals]

I feel so far the original mazes have been a hit (HOK did get weaker when moved into a smaller shed) so i won’t be surprised if Death Row is too, when they don’t have to stick to an IP they seem to have a lot more creativity and uniqueness which is when they shine. 

Where are we thinking for maze locations anyway? same as 2019 or different as you won’t be able to cut through the AA Courtyard?

[GoGoBoy]

Although IT Maze was incredible from my POV. Universal-grade effects and animatronics. Great costumes and sets. Really well done 

[Rivals]

5th and final maze announcement: The Conjuring Universe Maze.

https://frightnights.com.au/mazes/conjuring

 

Edited September 2, 2022 by Rivals