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1 hour ago, eggplant8585 said:

Just noticed now but doomsday destroyed has been removed from park map in app as an attraction completely. Still shows on the map but no name or icon

A shame they don't have it operating until they knew what to do with the area. Like that would've been nice to help alleviate some of the stress on the other ride lines

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39 minutes ago, themagician said:

It was very unreliable and was costing the park a lot to keep it running because of all of the work it needed

The ride was only unreliable because it was being run out of spec. It was essentially run into the ground due to “modifications”. 
The ride just needs an overhaul to return it back to opening day condition, which the bean counters said no to. 
 

 

7 minutes ago, Escaper said:

The ride was only unreliable because it was being run out of spec. It was essentially run into the ground due to “modifications”. 
The ride just needs an overhaul to return it back to opening day condition, which the bean counters said no to. 
 

Total bullshit.

3 hours ago, Escaper said:

The ride was only unreliable because it was being run out of spec. It was essentially run into the ground due to “modifications”. 
The ride just needs an overhaul to return it back to opening day condition, which the bean counters said no to. 
 

 

Source?

5 hours ago, LoZza said:

A shame they don't have it operating until they knew what to do with the area.

You new around here? Common practice for Village Roadshow

7 hours ago, Baconjack said:

You new around here? Common practice for Village Roadshow

A stupid one 

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46 minutes ago, LoZza said:

A stupid one 

It is, but it’s been happening for decades. It’s probably easier to list the rides that closed that they announced would be retiring, but here’s a list of what I can think of that has closed without notice:

Looney Tunes River Ride

Arkham Asylum/Lethal Weapon

Batman Adventure: The Ride

Bermuda Triangle

Sea Viper/Corkscrew

Pirate Ship

SkyHigh Skyway

Sea World Train

Monorail

Mach 5

Aqualoop

10 minutes ago, themagician said:

here’s a list of what I can think of that has closed without notice

And don't forget everyone's favourite attraction - Young Einstein Gravity Homestead.

15 hours ago, ShakeShack said:

Total bullshit.

I agree, it is total bullshit that they would treat their assets and customers like that, but here we are..

21 hours ago, themagician said:

It is, but it’s been happening for decades. It’s probably easier to list the rides that closed that they announced would be retiring, but here’s a list of what I can think of that has closed without notice:

Looney Tunes River Ride

Arkham Asylum/Lethal Weapon

Batman Adventure: The Ride

Bermuda Triangle

Sea Viper/Corkscrew

Pirate Ship

SkyHigh Skyway

Sea World Train

Monorail

Mach 5

Aqualoop

To be fair Mach 5, LTRR & Batman all had contracts for their replacements signed when they closed. They of course varied in quality but at least they were there.

Cant say much about the others which have either taken years to get off the ground or still sit as empty plots.

To be fair, they were still closed 'without notice' which is the issue people have - not getting a chance to ride one last time, etc etc.

The park knew they were going to remove it and instead of announcing it and giving people the opportunity to 'say goodbye', to give fans of the attraction a little 'send off'...

They Kingda Ka'd it.

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On 23/11/2024 at 7:22 AM, Baconjack said:

To be fair Mach 5, LTRR & Batman all had contracts for their replacements signed when they closed. They of course varied in quality but at least they were there.

Cant say much about the others which have either taken years to get off the ground or still sit as empty plots.

Tunes ride was not planned to close the way that it did. It was planned for an eventual replacement yes, but the timeframe of it was pushed forward due to unexpected issues. This then led to Bermuda being inspected thoroughly during its maintenance period before closure and it had similar issues and that's why it closed. They did explore options of doing a full refurb / rebuild of Bermuda but it was deemed to be too expensive with little to gain so it was decided to shutter it and put Storm in its place. 

Storm was actually purchased a few years prior to the install and was originally planned to go at the front of the park where Penguin Encounter currently is.

Staff now shout, "Do not touch your seatbelt," when loading on Superman Escape. They now buckle the seatbelt for you.

On 27/11/2024 at 6:30 PM, TV15 said:

Staff now shout, "Do not touch your seatbelt," when loading on Superman Escape. They now buckle the seatbelt for you.

Wonder if this is a manufacturer recommendation from Intamin or it is another insurance broker’s decision given there is no precedent on other installs throughout the world I am aware of

Anyone in here manage to get a ride on Kingda Ka and can provide some insight?

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28 minutes ago, Baconjack said:

Wonder if this is a manufacturer recommendation from Intamin or it is another insurance broker’s decision given there is no precedent on other installs throughout the world I am aware of

I had a quick thought that if they made 'we do the seatbelt' a general rule across the park then it might actually reduce confusion for guests.

But then I remembered Green Lantern was a lap belt so that's probably not the reason.

2 hours ago, Levram__ said:

They have nothing to do with it. 

I work in the insurance industry. Brokers, or more specifically the underwriters don't have the final say, but they do set the premiums based on perceived "risk" and VRTP is money first. I've heard some crazy specific rules imposed by insurance, not specifically for theme parks but Aus Zoo in the past, and car dealerships more recently.

8 hours ago, Baconjack said:

Wonder if this is a manufacturer recommendation from Intamin

The seatbelts on SE are completely unnecessary, they can be undone at any point in the ride. Essentially a piece of mind feature. If they're not needed on a ride don't have it. It slows down ops. FSF was delayed due to the secondary restraint locking system (the seatbelt) it's a clever, completely custom design that doesn't allow for the seatbelt to be undone during the ride.

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6 hours ago, TV15 said:

The seatbelts on SE are completely unnecessary

Not exactly. They are a fail safe if somehow the harnesses unlock during the ride, the seatbelt will keep it in place so the rider doesn’t get injured/killed. Nearly every coaster in the country has one and has always been the case.

6 hours ago, TV15 said:

It slows down ops

I doubt removing seatbelts would make that much difference, ops in Australia are just slow.

one thing i’ll never understand is not being able to do up our own seat belts, especially with rides such as Superman and Rivals. people have been doing up their own seatbelts on Superman for 18 years, and Rivals for 3 years before covid, atleast Steel Taipan and Flash actually opened with those rules (even if SurfRider didn’t have that rule.) i wonder if we’ll be able to do the seatbelt on fotww ourselves or not.

On 29/11/2024 at 10:55 PM, TV15 said:

The seatbelts on SE are completely unnecessary, they can be undone at any point in the ride. Essentially a piece of mind feature. If they're not needed on a ride don't have it. It slows down ops. FSF was delayed due to the secondary restraint locking system (the seatbelt) it's a clever, completely custom design that doesn't allow for the seatbelt to be undone during the ride.

Legally speaking in most parts of the world rides of Superman's level of thrill are required to have fail safes in their restraint design which is what the seat belt is for. All accelerators are delivered with such to be compliant with regulations. No idea what the go is with australia standards but I'd assume they are very similar to what you see in America and Europe.

18 hours ago, Levi said:

one thing i’ll never understand is not being able to do up our own seat belts, especially with rides such as Superman and Rivals. people have been doing up their own seatbelts on Superman for 18 years, and Rivals for 3 years before covid, atleast Steel Taipan and Flash actually opened with those rules (even if SurfRider didn’t have that rule.) i wonder if we’ll be able to do the seatbelt on fotww ourselves or not.

Rivals if i remember right is manufacturer best practice. Superman and flash are caused by the insurance broker

In any case i love to complain about this too but companies are money first and you have to make it work. The buck stops with the managers. They should be the ones keeping their staff engaged to get rides out as fast as possible because 4 hour queues in summer is unacceptable and insulting to customers when you don't get anywhere near that anywhere else during a peak period. Unfortunately what you get is apathy - whether this is the owners/execs passing it down to them or incompetence on their part is anyone's guess

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10 hours ago, Park Addict 93 said:

I did multiple rides on Superman Escape yesterday, could do up my own seatbelt. Staff were directing guests to do so upon entering the gates.

I was there on Wednesday and we weren't allowed to do up our seatbelts the whole day.

On 30/11/2024 at 6:08 AM, themagician said:

Not exactly. They are a fail safe if somehow the harnesses unlock during the ride, the seatbelt will keep it in place so the rider doesn’t get injured/killed. Nearly every coaster in the country has one and has always been the case.

Most restraints already have the fail-safe built in. However, if I recall correctly, only two accelerator coasters don’t have seatbelts, and both of them use a completely different train design (T-bars). Maybe it’s a case of the current restraint system, which was designed and developed in the early 2000s, requiring seatbelts? Not sure, just a thought.

T bars have seatbelts underneath covering the lap iirc. Dragster would have had them & xcelerator would have them otherwise ASTM compliance wouldn't be achieved.

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