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Not much effort to replace it with a new system though. It’s just a couple of towers, gondolas and drive system. skyways are still very big business today worldwide.

Saying 'by Australian standards' is like giving an encouragement award to the kid that turned up. Our parks aren't somehow randomly isolated from the world market and shouldn't just be given a pass because our personal standards in the last few years have dropped dramatically entirely influenced on the output that all our parks have given us. You also can't randomly put our parks into the Australian basket considering that every second piece of media from VRTP boasts it's additions as being 'world class'. If they say that they're world class, then they're competing with addition such as F.L.Y which opened recently at Phantasialand and that park sees less attendance then VRTP's properties so I'm not sure why we are congratulating the bare minimum requirement for what classifies as a 'theme park'.

Nobody said anything about giving them a pass. My comments were directed at the disagreement of a persons opinion. It IS cool, by Australian standards. And Rappa agreed with that (moderately). Yes, the 'world class' moniker is ridiculous and laughable. And i'd love for our parks to put more effort into theming and immersion, but at the risk of this going off wildly into a debate over the minutiae of parks world wide, it is more expensive to do many of these things in Aus, AND there is less competition to do so. The local market has shown they don't care too much. While enthusiasts protested at the loss of truly amazing world class attractions like PASS, Bermuda and LTRR, the public in general have voted with their wallets and $99 passes, and at every price increase they see massive vitriol, compared to the $87 day ticket currently available for Phantasialand. At any rate - I don't disagree with you about the Aus level of park design being sub-par to the world - It's just that in my view, I can see how the average local doesn't know any better, and probably doesn't care.

While I unfortunately have no pictures today I was at WWW this morning and noticed they were working on the queue area of the ride, the trains are also back in the station which they were under wraps Hopefully not too far off now till we can all ride an Arrow coaster again

100%. There is no reason to raise the bar when you set the bar in place in the first place. If VRTP released Atlantis as an entirely themed, immersive, world-class experience then it'd cause the rest of their property to suffer or feel dated so they almost have no incentive to do anything extraordinary especially when their primary goal is to satisfy shareholders.

Y'know, some form of skyway would be a wonderful way to get people from the front of the park to the middle...

You can guarantee there was a debate about whether to significantly delay it or even pull the plug but ultimately they went ahead on schedule and there were no significant delays as a result of TRR. Name/theme/marketing changes sure, but groundwork was underway prior to the incident, track showed up a few months later and it was assembled like clockwork, save for a few design/fabrication hiccups. No doubt the certification/approval process was more involved and a few things were changed, rushed or scrapped but it was always destined for a September 2017 launch.

Fun fact. Velikolukskiy Myasokombinat means Meat Processing Plant in English. There's also a second coaster with this sponsor in the park Velikolukskiy Myasokombinat-2.

I'll make a booking with my physio and chiro for the day after opening in preparation!

I think TRR had a massive flow on effect to Aussie World for sure. SX360 still isn't open or even an ETA being given. Their future expansions such as replacement wild mouse are also up in the air.

According to ~internet statistics~ only 8% of people in Australia have ever been to a Disney park so by that measure you can understand why Australian theme park owners are less concerned about the "theme" aspect of their parks because the bar for impressing the average theme park goer is a lot lower. Not really a great excuse for our parks to slack off but when the competition is so minimal there's probably little reason for any of the parks to spend money on theming. What we really need in Australia is a new park to come along and completely blow joe public away with attention to detail and immersive experiences that way it'll force the other parks in the country to try a little harder.

I appreciate the response and insight into your comments Alex. You definitely make some great points especially in regards to the public having rather limited expectations.

Probably scared them off for good.

I also think the type of ride also impacts on public opinion/outrage in the event of an accident/incident. Despite the fact it shouldn’t matter and from a safety and compliance standpoint there is no difference, the average Ma and Pa Public will be less outraged/shocked/enraged hearing someone was injured or killed on a rollercoaster that is high speed/intensity/inversions etc than on a fairly placid family ride you can bring your 2 year old on. that alone would have, in my opinion, caused a disparity in public sentiment if GL had of derailed versus what happened on TRR. The fact there were kids on the raft that survived made it hit home further as it made it more relatable to even those that don’t frequent parks at all. Had one of those children, god forbid, become a victim, I don’t think Dreamworld EVER recovers and probably isn’t even operating today.

Rivals was in the pipeline long before TRR happened. That just pushed it back. From them having to rebrand the whole thing and scrap all marketing to the delays from having the Government crawling around everything for a few months while they gave the ok to Village to continue as they were.

Alternatively...... 😂

I mean it is an option, but it would be an unreal amount of work to make it not shit, and ultimately it's a lot of money to spend on basically nothing.

That side of the park is the only day time operation ‘back of house’ access for vehicles, plant and other services. You’d also have to pass through back of house staff areas and maintenance workshops to get to it. Else you’d have to go in front of the dock which obviously can’t work because then it’s not a dock. Yes there are terrible chock points in the park, but opening that path to guests just isn’t an option.

I feel like there isn’t all that much hypothetical to this topic actually when it comes to Green Lantern’s impact. Regardless of whether the incident led to tragedy or not I don’t think the outcome would have changed much in terms of government oversight. The government isn’t silly, it would have known how close things came. The big difference between this and TRR is this was an engineering and design/manufacture problem. Is wasn’t a systemic failure in process of management, compliance, regulatory oversight and safety analysis. The only real difference in outcome as I see it as the ride would likely have been removed. Yes there have been fatalities on rides overseas that have reopened, however the fact Green Lantern is not that special a ride, and a giant big reminder of tragedy at the front of your park is somewhat less than desirable I think tends to suggest it would have been removed. The big impact that TRR had on the public was not so much that someone died, it was that the park clearly cared more about the bottom dollar than they did on safety. So the public felt betrayed because it was almost as though DW caused the accident. As opposed to a freak unforeseeable tragedy.

I believe they are trying to get some form of Powered Ranger to Go. Go Go Power Ranger!

Opinion is a relative thing. Not everyone has access to the wonders that are massively funded overseas parks. Adjust your expectations - by Australian standards, its pretty damn cool.

Photo from TPSN

I’ve heard people say that HK DL is one of the best Disney parks, not because of the number of attractions, but because it’s one of quietest and it actually gives you time to enjoy everything. I love that they are properly investing in this park now with a better castle and new lands, I can’t wait to visit it one day

MDMC and the vintage cars are closed for a couple days after the flooding

Nope, we’ve had two on one year, but if all coasters are on track and don’t have delays then it could be an Australian first

I went in late March early April a few years ago and would highly recommend them. It wasn’t too cold and wasn’t overly busy either. The bullet train will be your friend for travelling long distances. So fly into Tokyo, do Disney, then train to Fuji Q then continue on to Osaka to do Universal. And if possible, fly out from there. While your in Osaka definitely spend a few days in Kyoto too. Beautiful part of the country. If you want some tips for Universal, happy to share

The carpark flooded because of the canal that runs under the entrance, so I would definitely say that the front part of the park would have flooded. I would also say that the western area would have flooded around WWF

But Jet Rescue was built well before Corkscrew was gone? I know what you’re trying to say, but it wouldn’t have worked with the timing of everything

No there was a crane next to Sky Flyer

There is currently a crane on site

Sea World Carnivale is back. All new Aquacolour Spectacular. Event is on a few different days this year. Jan 10, 11, 16, 17, 18, 23, 24, 25. And everything else seems to be the same so far https://seaworldcarnivale.com.au/