Arkham asylum replacement theming??

[Cooper Liston]

Hey everyone,

As it is looking very likely that the Arkham asylum at movieworld will be replaced what does everyone reckon the theming for the replacement attraction will be

My guess is that they will still stick with the Batman sorta theming but im not quite sure what yet

[Gtmichaels]

Honestly, I’m just hoping for Australia’s first B&M! Definitely not a hyper cause the park already has that. Movie World has shown they have the money for large scale attractions, and some people believe it to be a dark ride or something? They would have to replace Arkham Asylum with an equally, if not more thrilling attraction imo. Either a B&M invert or a mini dive machine! That would match the theme great, like Batman diving off of a building or something?! Whatever they do, I’m sure it will be epic!

So yeh, sticking with the Batman theme is a real possibility that I find likely.

Edited May 13, 2021 by Gtmichaels

[themagician]

Based off what has been announced so far, unfortunately it doesn’t seem like we will be hearing about an AA replacement today (unless they are keeping it a surprise)

[ThemeParks4Life]

I never got to ride 'Arkham Asylum' but did the Lethal Weapon quite a few times. 

I have seen on various posts there was new trains and stuff, was the ride experience that different?

[fletch]

1 minute ago, ThemeParks4Life said:

I never got to ride 'Arkham Asylum' but did the Lethal Weapon quite a few times. 

I have seen on various posts there was new trains and stuff, was the ride experience that different?

Never got to ride AA either, but from what I've heard the new trains solved the head banging, but after a few years it started to develop a real nasty rattle and the restraints caused painful thigh crushing.

[Cooper Liston]

6 hours ago, Gtmichaels said:

Honestly, I’m just hoping for Australia’s first B&M! Definitely not a hyper cause the park already has that. Movie World has shown they have the money for large scale attractions, and some people believe it to be a dark ride or something? They would have to replace Arkham Asylum with an equally, if not more thrilling attraction imo. Either a B&M invert or a mini dive machine! That would match the theme great, like Batman diving off of a building or something?! Whatever they do, I’m sure it will be epic!

So yeh, sticking with the Batman theme is a real possibility that I find likely.

Yes my bets are definitely on a B&M invert coaster, it would definitely fit the park and the space provided really well 

[Brad2912]

40 minutes ago, ThemeParks4Life said:

I have seen on various posts there was new trains and stuff, was the ride experience that different?

The ear bashing that pained you post ride on LW was removed with the new trains. Others found that was replaced by pressure on the thighs/upper legs where the harness met - but i personally didnt experience that.

You also had the option to wear a VR headset which would obviously have provided a different experience, had we had some forewarning about its closure, i would have ensured i experienced this, but i didnt get to

[fletch]

6 minutes ago, Cooper Liston said:

Yes my bets are definitely on a B&M invert coaster, it would definitely fit the park and the space provided really well 

I disagree. I believe we'll see a new gen Vekoma invert or flyer come to the plot. Mainly because B&M has never worked in Australia and the price tag for a Vekoma would be far lower then a B&M invert. I've been informed that there will be an announcement for AA's replacement within the coming months.

[Cooper Liston]

3 minutes ago, fletch said:

I disagree. I believe we'll see a new gen Vekoma invert or flyer come to the plot. Mainly because B&M has never worked in Australia and the price tag for a Vekoma would be far lower then a B&M invert. I've been informed that there will be an announcement for AA's replacement within the coming months.

A vekoma invert would also fit the park really well, yes ive heard that there will be an announcement in the coming months very soon aswell

[StingRay]

Larson looper would be nice 

[Naazon]

Surely we could get one off Alibaba.com

 

Edit: I mean this was supposed to be a joke, but you totally can.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Henan-Beston-family-entertainment-attraction-cheap_62078798898.html?spm=a2700.pc_countrysearch.main07.52.772a25df9IYsdl

Edited May 13, 2021 by Naazon

[Zac Beckwith]

2 minutes ago, Naazon said:

Surely we could get one off Alibaba.com

[Naazon]

In all seriousness, if its not a duelling Invert/normal coaster like at USS or a 4D like X2 or Eejanaika they have missed a massive opportunity.

[Gtmichaels]

35 minutes ago, fletch said:

I disagree. I believe we'll see a new gen Vekoma invert or flyer come to the plot.

Ah! Now that’s a great possibility there! I forgot about Vekoma’s new launched flyers, which are THE BEST coasters for a Batman theme, right? I also forgot Vekoma had their STC now to replace the Slc models haha. Honestly, for what we had, it was a smooth slc!

[Slick]

44 minutes ago, fletch said:

I disagree. I believe we'll see a new gen Vekoma invert or flyer come to the plot. Mainly because B&M has never worked in Australia and the price tag for a Vekoma would be far lower then a B&M invert. I've been informed that there will be an announcement for AA's replacement within the coming months.

This is pretty outdated thinking now. Ever since the Aussie dollar began to slack, B&M's overall pricing has been pretty relative to other manufacturers. However we don't have the same capacity and service requirements as other countries do, which renders a lot of their portfolio overkill to our market's needs. TLDR; why spend more on 4-across trains when you can have a non-inverting loop?

Edited May 14, 2021 by Slick

[aaronm]

Unless it's one of the smaller dive coasters, I tend to agree that B&M's offerings are probably too big for the market. Something like Vekoma's Lech Coaster or a Gerstlauer Infinity coaster would be about right size and budget-wise.

[ThemeTendo]

If you're going for a Dive Coaster of sorts, I'd much rather see something like the Mack BigDipper coaster model (Example: Lost Gravity at Walibi Holland  - YouTube)

A thrilling compact coaster would work well forming part of a new precinct - chuck a few decent flat rides in and maximise your land usage to finalise the loop Movie World has been lacking. (with a link from Superman through to West) Even linking it into the Doomsday area could make that spot more than just a dead-end.

Alternatively, do a larger family thrill coaster like DrageKongen at Djurs Sommerland would be equally as good for Movie World's lineup (DrageKongen - YouTube)

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Well, that's hoping that the plan is to continue with the precinct expansion model of adding a flagship attraction and a couple fillers. (3x rides for Sea World, 3x slide type tower+splashpad for Wet n Wild... plenty of opportunities to spend money at Movie World though - the planned but not executed PASS+HSD "fusion" show, and then stuff we'd like to see happen - Kids WB refresh, Arkham replacement precinct, etc. etc.)

Edited May 14, 2021 by ThemeTendo

[Brad2912]

Been saying it for years, duelling coasters themed to the The Flash (red) and Reverse Flash (yellow) would be a great theme choice. Nice tie in with the film coming out at the end of next year too. 

only shame in that is it leaves Batman with the least iconic ride in the park, when we all know he’s the best superhero...

[Levithian]

4 hours ago, fletch said:

I disagree. I believe we'll see a new gen Vekoma invert or flyer come to the plot. Mainly because B&M has never worked in Australia and the price tag for a Vekoma would be far lower then a B&M invert. I've been informed that there will be an announcement for AA's replacement within the coming months.

+ extensive history with vekoma already. Id love to see a thrill coaster replace it. It's kinda like SLC generation 2. Wonder what the pricing is like. 

[Slick]

Re-posting and tweaking this post from another thread because I stand by this idea and I reckon it's boss.

Mad Max themed land.

• Vekoma Mad-house where the WB Exhibit is now. Entrance to the east facing current Arkham station OR an ETF dark ride system that uses the Mavericks/WB Exhibit building as a station/dark-ride section that then swings out into a Mad Max themed courtyard.
• Vekoma flyer that makes use of the space from Superman Escape's helixes right up to the current maze buildings.
• Mad Max themed bar and events space that doubles as an exit pathway, observation platform (think light-house type outpost themed to Mad Max) and merch space for the ride itself.
• Mack Twist 'n' Splash or Drunken Barrels (or hell, any half decent flat ride that would do well on a hot summer day) to tie the space in between current Arkham courtyard and the interconnect from the Mad Max area to WWF.

This combo of attractions would make great use of the land, avoids overlap with existing attractions in Australia and has clearly defined marketable advantages (country's first flying coaster, total novelty factor etc.)

Advantages of a Mad Max themed land:

• There's a new Mad Max movie.
• The theme is pretty iconic and timeless at this point.
• It's basically an abandoned, rustic theme, so it's not crazy expensive to do well
• It's Aussie AF and appeals to the same demo that Hollywood Stunt Driver does
• The transitions between other precincts themed lands is a piece of cake - it's an easy transition to WWF, and the transitions between Superman and Main Street are basically more of what used to be there with the China Town Alley-way. If you put an RMC Hybrid between West and Mad Max it'd fit theming wise for both and blur the transition between the lands.

You're welcome Village. 🍻

Second update: have added inspo pictures because why not. How sick would it be walking into the former Arkham Asylum precinct styled into a dry Sydney Harbour, complete with broken harbour bridge, faux skyline facades,  beautiful chandalier interiors with old Victorian-style glasshouses melded into the sand rockery and a ton of cool outposts and makeshift vehicles thrown into the mix.

Edited May 14, 2021 by Slick

[Cooper Liston]

11 minutes ago, Slick said:

Re-posting this from another thread because I stand by this idea and I reckon it's boss.

 

Mad Max themed land.

• Vekoma Mad-house where the WB Exhibit is now. Entrance to the east facing current Arkham station
• Vekoma flyer that makes use of the space from Superman Escape's helixes right up to the current maze buildings.
• Mad Max themed bar and events space that doubles as an exit pathway, observation platform (think light-house type outpost themed to Mad Max) and merch space for the ride itself.
• Mack Twist 'n' Splash or Drunken Barrels (or hell, any half decent flat ride that would do well on a hot summer day) to tie the space in between current Arkham courtyard and the interconnect from the Mad Max area to WWF.

This combo of attractions would make great use of the land, avoids overlap with existing attractions in Australia and has clearly defined marketable advantages (country's first flying coaster, total novelty factor etc.)

Advantages of a Mad Max themed land:

• There's a new Mad Max movie.
• The theme is pretty iconic and timeless at this point.
• It's basically an abandoned, rustic theme, so it's not crazy expensive to do well
• It's Aussie AF and appeals to the same demo that Hollywood Stunt Driver does
• The transitions between other precincts themed lands is a piece of cake - it's an easy transition to WWF, and the transitions between Superman and Main Street are basically more of what used to be there with the China Town Alley-way.

You're welcome Village. 🍻

Absolutely love this idea, would make great use of the space and I believe it would give movieworld alot more variety in the sense of theming and that would give abit more of a refreshing feel to the park. Whether or not they do something like this tho is a different story

Edited May 14, 2021 by Cooper Liston

[joz]

Apart from I don't think Mad Max is the right theme for a madhouse, that is all basically fine. Madhouse suits something supernatural, Mad Max is dystopian future, not really magic. I might also be inclined to put the Mack Twist and Splash elsewhere, maybe WnW as a whirlpool replacement, or in WB Kids.

 

Personal taste would be Mad Max RMC behind West/Scooby rather than towards Superman, and use AA's land for a Matrix Coaster (your flyer would work for that). All of this is like 10+ years worth of investment in 2 short paragraphs 

[Slick]

1 minute ago, joz said:

Apart from I don't think Mad Max is the right theme for a madhouse, that is all basically fine. Madhouse suits something supernatural, Mad Max is dystopian future, not really magic. I might also be inclined to put the Mack Twist and Splash elsewhere, maybe WnW as a whirlpool replacement, or in WB Kids.

 

Personal taste would be Mad Max RMC behind West/Scooby rather than towards Superman, and use AA's land for a Matrix Coaster (your flyer would work for that). All of this is like 10+ years worth of investment in 2 short paragraphs 

Honestly a Madhouse would be right at home in the castle at Sea World. I really dig those suspended ETF ride systems purely because of the ability to go from ride in a box to coming outside and adding kinetic energy to a greater themed space.

[joz]

I think SW too. If you were going to do MW, a way you could do it is have a Movie Memorabilia museum (Show case is fine) and have a vault for a cursed for a cursed movie prop, maybe a 'genuine' mummie that was used as a prop for a movie that was never released as everyone who watched it pre release perished in mysterious circumstances. Some basic shit like that anyway.

[Slick]

24 minutes ago, joz said:

I think SW too. If you were going to do MW, a way you could do it is have a Movie Memorabilia museum (Show case is fine) and have a vault for a cursed for a cursed movie prop, maybe a 'genuine' mummie that was used as a prop for a movie that was never released as everyone who watched it pre release perished in mysterious circumstances. Some basic shit like that anyway.

Yeah love this. 🍻