Are you suggesting maybe it needed kicker wheels before the loop?

@Dean BarnettI've read his post multiple times, at no point was he suggesting kicker wheels, nor did he come close to doing so.

 

Hope that helps!

Maybe its time to remove the trim brake fins from the first hill... Just saying!

I'm just saying an incident that has seemingly never happened in the ~130,000 cycles prior (80 cycles a day, 330 days a year) might not have happened ever if the ride's geometry were a bit different. And I'm saying it with the luxury of not needing to know the root causes or having to come up with a viable solution. 

Edited September 19, 20224 yr by Richard

13 minutes ago, Brendo88 said:

Maybe its time to remove the trim brake fins from the first hill.

At least have them as retractable .. for windy days and empty trains!

Better solution than a complex system in a really difficult place to access.....

Don't operate in adverse weather. 

Edited September 19, 20224 yr by Levithian

Well they already failed at that. 

I imagine they’ll be more reluctant to operate the ride on windy days now, meaning more downtime overall. 

3 hours ago, Levithian said:

Better solution than a complex system in a really difficult place to access.....

Don't operate in adverse weather. 

But it’s already been discussed that the ride was operated within the accepted wind speed limits. The problem seems to have been contributed to by the lack of weight in the train due to it being empty, cold wheels due to it being the first test dispatch of the day, and then a perfectly/imperfectly timed and directed wind gust. 
 

if you were closing rides for the conditions that were prevalent on that day, we’d be lucky to see the ride open more than 60% of the year, as they were not “bad” 

We have to remember that each train is worth millions of dollars. 
So you don’t just start pulling apart such a thing without procedure and planning. 

Would not be surprised if some of the delay has been due to Mack sending staff over here.

Edited September 19, 20224 yr by Whombex

23 minutes ago, Whombex said:

Would not be surprised if some of the delay has been due to Mack sending staff over here.

If this was the reason doesn’t really explain why they attempted, then failed and haven’t tried again.

Mack wouldn’t send a team over here to complete a failed attempt 

How about a 'push' through instead of pull through? A powered device that could be put on the rails and give it a little nudge to get it moving! 🤣

5 hours ago, rappa said:

So you don’t just start pulling apart such a thing without procedure and planning. 

They (hopefully) regually pull trains apart for maintenance/inspections - it's not like it's something alien for them to do. 

The trains didn't arrive fully assembeled. 

7 hours ago, Rivals said:

 

Mack wouldn’t send a team over here to complete a failed attempt 

Do you think Mack had a crystal ball it would fail?

If an idea failed would you attempt it again?

58 minutes ago, Gazza said:

Do you think Mack had a crystal ball it would fail?

If an idea failed would you attempt it again?

If they did reach out and receive advice from Mack, the advice would’ve been a well tested process for how to recover trains that valley, therefor giving it a lesser chance for failure meaning they probably would’ve tried again if that’s the only piece of advice they’ve received.

It doesn’t take nearly 2 weeks to call a company and get advice, even if Mack had to send people over would it take that long? I feel like MovieWorld thought of the idea they tried going through with, now that it’s failed they are contacting Mack. 

How many NI Loops have Mack had to complete a pull through on? I lost count after 1. specifically, this time.

 

Additionally, its all well and good Mack providing instructions, the crew on the ground need to be the ones who complete it, and they may not have been able to follow the steps/advice provided by Mack.

There are 3 parties involved in this.

Argh so many assumptions in this thread it's kinda puke.

We don't know why it didn't make the full circuit.

We don't know why it's still there.

We don't know what the rescue plan is. 

We don't know what emails have been sent or calls have been made. 

I am critical of Movieworld as i hold it to a higher standard but gesus goddamn this is a largely unforeseeable and almost unheard of valley in Australia  that Movieworld cannot and shouldn't be getting heat for. It sucks it's taken this long to fix for sure - but if you don't think they arnt pulling teeth trying to fix it then you are foolish. 

Was at Movieworld yesterday, nothing was happening with hyper that I could see.

I spoke with a few members of staff about it, and was informed that it valleyed on its second test run, it almost didn’t make it the first time.

They confirmed that they working hard on it, but it may be a little while before she reopens.

Was also told that Green Lantern has been tested a lot lately, I know it’s scheduled to reopen on the 7th of October, however, because of hyper being down it may come out if maintenance early.

Edited September 19, 20224 yr by Ashley

2 hours ago, aussienetman said:

 

Argh so many assumptions in this thread it's kinda puke.

We don't know why it didn't make the full circuit.

We don't know why it's still there.

We don't know what the rescue plan is. 

We don't know what emails have been sent or calls have been made. 

 

We do know that it was really windy that day. It didn’t make it through the course because it was really windy *and* empty. 

Yes that is an assumption but a very calculated one. 

It’s still there because they apparently chose to try a pull though - probably the most complex of the options - using multiple cranes, cables and pullies - then just hoping the numbers are right that it will make it around… empty… from a standing start. 
 

We don’t know the lines or communication but what I have pointed out is similar issues have been solved in days - not weeks by simply picking the train up, putting it on a truck and rebuilding it again on the maintenance track.. or maybe even the holding brake ?

 

I feel like Movie World may be looking at other options now like potentially borrowing the launch track from Tiapan to rock launch it back to the station. 

25 minutes ago, Dean Barnett said:

 

🤣 omfg.. is it school holidays or something. Dean Dean Dean..... You talk a lot of shit man

2 hours ago, aussienetman said:

🤣 omfg.. is it school holidays or something. Dean Dean Dean..... You talk a lot of shit man

Don't we all talk a lot of s**t on these forums?

Seems that VRTP have updated their advertisements to show Superman Escape instead of DC Rivals (have noticed this on multiple advertising boards recently). This particular billboard used to have an image of DC Rivals before the incident.  

9 minutes ago, Noll_57 said:

Seems that VRTP have updated their advertisements to show Superman Escape instead of DC Rivals (have noticed this on multiple advertising boards recently). This particular billboard used to have an image of DC Rivals before the incident.  

Good eye, it may be a coincidence, or it could reinforce what I was told yesterday, that rivals ain't reopening anytime soon.

Did rival's get a pull through in the testing phase?